Depressing driving standards

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I had the misfortune on both of Friday and Sunday of driving into central London from south London. I'm sure that the roads are worse than they were. Just couldn't resist having a moan about:
- Drivers who don't understand the politeness about filtering in turn from two lanes into one and think it's OK to superglue themselves to the vehicle infront of them at your expense. I had this with a double decker bus on the way home on Friday. I'd slowed to allow one bus out, and the second then insisted on nearly taking the side off my car. Nice.
- The pratt who looked like he was turning right at a junction, who I'd pulled up behind, then simply put on his hazards, got out of his car and wandered off to see his missus. Note that his car was absolutely no where near the kerb at the time.
- The 35mph people. Going through a 30mph zone (e.g. a busy pedestrian littered road) and they break the speed limit, yet hit a 50mph zone and they're STILL stuck at 35mph. Have they never heard of "making effective progress".
- The number of drivers who couldn't be bothered to indicate and let you know they're turning until you're at a junction and then can't find a sensible way around them.
- The drivers who simply don't understand basic level road signs like "bus lane Mon-Fri", meaning that as it's now Sunday, that we can actually use the lane.
- The drivers with zero lane discipline who meander around lanes at will, particularly so when going across a roadabout with multiple lanes.
- The drivers coming out of side roads who think it's OK to pull into the road, when traffic in the lane they're pulling into is clearly stopped and all they'll do is stop traffic coming the other way.
- The traffic light grand prix brigade. I kid you not that I had a little old lady in a Honda Jazz storm away from the lights on Sunday. I wouldn't mind but I just can't be bothered to get involved in this stuff anymore, so haven't actually tried against anyone in months. I would have let her go anyway, so why the need to get to the next traffic jam so quickly?

My drive to and from on Sunday took around 3 hours, by which time I was wondering where to procure a book on stress management.
It really was a great advert for public transport.
 
On the 35mph brigade comment, I guess that's down to traffic volumes as here it seems they all do 40mph everywhere.
 
- The 35mph people. Going through a 30mph zone (e.g. a busy pedestrian littered road) and they break the speed limit, yet hit a 50mph zone and they're STILL stuck at 35mph. Have they never heard of "making effective progress".

Happens round here too.

Going along at 40MPH in a NSL, but then continue at 40MPH in a busy residential 30MPH area. :rolleyes:
 
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- The traffic light grand prix brigade. I kid you not that I had a little old lady in a Honda Jazz storm away from the lights on Sunday. I wouldn't mind but I just can't be bothered to get involved in this stuff anymore, so haven't actually tried against anyone in months. I would have let her go anyway, so why the need to get to the next traffic jam so quickly?

This is actually still quite fun. I'm at the lights, revving sporadically the Lotus, which is very capable of 0-60 in 4.4sec... Then the lights change...
and I pootle off at a really slow pace. Meanwhile the idiots in the lanes adjacent both scream off the lights desperate to gain some fathom of satisfaction at overtaking me. I laugh to myself at my cruel ideas.

I did used to do this however where I'd zoom off at green, however on reaching the otherside of the junction i'd be at 40MPH (limit) for this road, and stop accelerating, meanwhile the other idiotic drivers would go tearing down the road upto 70MPH just to overtake me and probably believe they were faster too... :rolleyes:
 
I had the misfortune on both of Friday and Sunday of driving into central London from south London. I'm sure that the roads are worse than they were. Just couldn't resist having a moan about:
- Drivers who don't understand the politeness about filtering in turn from two lanes into one and think it's OK to superglue themselves to the vehicle infront of them at your expense. I had this with a double decker bus on the way home on Friday. I'd slowed to allow one bus out, and the second then insisted on nearly taking the side off my car. Nice.
- The pratt who looked like he was turning right at a junction, who I'd pulled up behind, then simply put on his hazards, got out of his car and wandered off to see his missus. Note that his car was absolutely no where near the kerb at the time.
- The 35mph people. Going through a 30mph zone (e.g. a busy pedestrian littered road) and they break the speed limit, yet hit a 50mph zone and they're STILL stuck at 35mph. Have they never heard of "making effective progress".
- The number of drivers who couldn't be bothered to indicate and let you know they're turning until you're at a junction and then can't find a sensible way around them.
- The drivers who simply don't understand basic level road signs like "bus lane Mon-Fri", meaning that as it's now Sunday, that we can actually use the lane.
- The drivers with zero lane discipline who meander around lanes at will, particularly so when going across a roadabout with multiple lanes.
- The drivers coming out of side roads who think it's OK to pull into the road, when traffic in the lane they're pulling into is clearly stopped and all they'll do is stop traffic coming the other way.
- The traffic light grand prix brigade. I kid you not that I had a little old lady in a Honda Jazz storm away from the lights on Sunday. I wouldn't mind but I just can't be bothered to get involved in this stuff anymore, so haven't actually tried against anyone in months. I would have let her go anyway, so why the need to get to the next traffic jam so quickly?

My drive to and from on Sunday took around 3 hours, by which time I was wondering where to procure a book on stress management.
It really was a great advert for public transport.

Welcome to the West End and City.
 
happens here too

the grand prix bridge is mainly manned by chavvs around here, although they are not very good as I can beat them with my diesel car :p ( because I know when the lights WILL change)
 
People who do 5-10mph under the limit when it's really unneccassary really grind my gears, dry roads, good visibility, no reason to go slow. You may be old, retired and crusty but I don't have the luxury of leaving earler, SPEEED UP!

I love smoking chavs off the lights though, black smoking with my dirty diesel, I will admit that one :D
 
Welcome to city driving. Around here they do anything and everything but not as bad as in Naples.

I've been driving in London for 16 years now, so I do have a bit of experience here, still leaves me baffled.

Regarding the traffic light drag race, I can see how the local chavs would get their kicks out it. What I don't understand is how/why it's now extended out to include OAPs in their Hondas? Maybe she bought the "sport" model, beggars belief.
 
You do the traffic light granx prix in London because often the only way to make a lane change in London is to out accelerate the person next to you at the lights and then cut in front of them.

Clearly being one car length further back is completely unacceptable.

On a less sarcastic note, you can end up falling foul of a box junction camera in some circumstances too.


And yeah, driving standards are proportional to your distance from London.
 
The key to driving in London is driving a rubbish, old car. Ideally with a dent or two.

You have to instill in people the fear that because your car is so bad, you don't care about getting hit and as such, people will let you out and basically give you a very wide berth.

The only people to worry about after this are the buses - don't **** with them. :o

The drivers who simply don't understand basic level road signs like "bus lane Mon-Fri", meaning that as it's now Sunday, that we can actually use the lane.

The left hand lane invariably has people letting people out, parked or just pulling over for fun... it's much easier just to cruise in the right hand lane than to constantly move between lanes.
 
- The drivers coming out of side roads who think it's OK to pull into the road, when traffic in the lane they're pulling into is clearly stopped and all they'll do is stop traffic coming the other way.

This seems to happen to me all the time, except they'll stop rather than just decisively get a move on. If you're going to pull out in front of me, put your foot down a bit and get going, don't hesitate and force me to come to a crawl.
 
Not been to a big city recently?

Surprised you are so surprised about seeing such driving... Sounds like a normal day driving.
 
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