Confirmed NVIDIA : Fermi Launch 26th March 2010

[GJ02]

so, in a nutshell what do we know about the new range of cards ?
whats the likelihood of them being the dogs nads ? do we think there going to be just ok overpriced ati wannabys

in a way im wanting nvidia to fail, because of the way they have handled this and left everyone in the dark

 

[Dark Sun]

I reckon it will be months until we can get hold of the cards and ATI will probably bring something out in that time or ATI partners will bring out super clocked 5870s with custom coolers. This is a massive fail for Nvidia. I reckon the cards will go for £400+ because of limited availability. Unless the card is an absolute beast then I can't see why I would get one over a 5870. I don't expect to see many reviews at launch as Nvidia will surely only let their "friends" review the cards first.

 

[D.P.]

So, the release date is as expected- the end of March, Q1 2010. This is what the reliable rumours and nvidia leaks have said for 6 months now.

 

[Marine-RX179]

I for one can not wait for the blazing fast Radeon 6800 series.

Yea...but can you imagine the price they would be at? Judging from the launch price level of 5000 series (comparing to the launch price level of 4000 series) , they would probably price 6700/6800 single GPU card at £200-£400, and probably £600-£700 for the "X2" or 6970 card...

Sure if you are don't mind spending a fortune on the best, but most average Joes would have tight budget to meet...

 

[bru]

So, the release date is as expected- the end of March, Q1 2010. This is what the reliable rumours and nvidia leaks have said for 6 months now.

exactly, as you say this is what nvidia have said ever since they admitted that the delayed part wasn't actually delayed, but planed to be released the end of the 1st quarter all along. in a roundabout delayed fashion.


ps just remember the lower end gf100 derivatives (you know those parts that certain members on here suggest will never happen ) are supposedly on schedule for July time frame....

 

['Wes]

Doesn't stop them from delaying it again.

 

[Admiral Huddy]

so, in a nutshell what do we know about the new range of cards ?
whats the likelihood of them being the dogs nads ? do we think there going to be just ok overpriced ati wannabys

in a way im wanting nvidia to fail, because of the way they have handled this and left everyone in the dark

I don't think they have. This is not just a re-branded or re-fabricated G80/G92with just the speeds increased and a few more ROPS. It's a completely new architecture to improve the efficiency of the geometry under DX11. Going back to the drawing board means the NVIDIA will not only have card for now but card for the future.

If I was a betting man, I would think that ATI would be more worried, going by what I've read thus far.

Personally, i rather them delay and get it right than repeating the FX 58** fiasco.. Which it sounds like they've learnt from.

 

[RavenXXX2]

ATi are more on the ball than anyone now, when their new architecture hits you can guarantee it will rock and it wont be the fiasco that is currently nvidia.

 

[straxusii]

So, the release date is as expected- the end of March, Q1 2010. This is what the reliable rumours and nvidia leaks have said for 6 months now.

Im afraid they havent mate, the release has been Oct 09, Nov 09, Dec 09, Feb 10 and now March 10.

This article is very interesting on the subject : http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-geforce-470-480/

 

[Tute]

There's a difference between a launch date and an availability date. I just hope there's stock at the end of March.

 

[mmj_uk]

There's a difference between a launch date and an availability date. I just hope there's stock at the end of March.

I would put my money on it not being the case, not in any great numbers anyway.

Now that AMD have set the bar so low for a hard launch there's nothing to stop NVidia doing the same.

 

[JTrickle]

If I was a betting man, I would think that ATI would be more worried, going by what I've read thus far.

It just looks to me like Nvidia are hedging their bets by half aiming at the gpgpu science supercomputer market, whilst still trying to just maintain top card lead for branding reasons, not profit. Their only market before this compute on gfx card stuff, was the discrete graphics card market. They got pushed out of the mobo chipset one.

They simply got delayed 5-6 months this round.

 

[Arcane]

excellent, a firm release date, really looking forward to this.

 

[Mr Fujisawa]

It just looks to me like Nvidia are hedging their bets by half aiming at the gpgpu science supercomputer market, whilst still trying to just maintain top card lead for branding reasons, not profit. Their only market before this compute on gfx card stuff, was the discrete graphics card market. They got pushed out of the mobo chipset one.

They simply got delayed 5-6 months this round.

I read that whilst 2/3 of sales are from gaming gpus, 2/3 profit are from the quadro market due to the margins, so it makes sense.

 

[drunkenmaster]

Im afraid they havent mate, the release has been Oct 09, Nov 09, Dec 09, Feb 10 and now March 10.

This article is very interesting on the subject : http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-geforce-470-480/

Don't forget that they had planned to launch at Cebit, and show cards, which turned into a no card showing "architecture" launch. So thats another one, the rumours, if you look back, has Charlie back in June(and before it) saying it wouldn't be available till end Q1 2010 because he reckoned it would take at least 2 respins..........

That was before the A1 silicon taped out and came back and they tested it, I think he was saying as far back as late 2008 that he reckoned the GT300 would never make it in 2009.


Guru3d's article is basically repeating quite a bit of what Charlie has been saying for months, then trying to trash what Charlie's said for months and somehow coming up with the idea its his fantastic industry contacts that came up with all this info, that every has had for a long time.

 

[drunkenmaster]

I read that whilst 2/3 of sales are from gaming gpus, 2/3 profit are from the quadro market due to the margins, so it makes sense.

Higher, and much lower, more sales are gaming gpu's....... if you want to call them that. Most sales for both companies are the low end frankly awful gpu's, the 4350/5450/GT210 type cards, infact Nvidia has made a shedload in the past quarter almost solely on this cards. They are low profit per sale but massive massive sales.

Quadro's don't make up the majority of their profit, infact due to their spending on marketing CUDA and other things and the amount spent on software, coding and teams for it, they've eaten a lot of the profits trying to expand the gpgpu market for themselves. However Quadro sales enable humoungous profit per sale, the cards are better, only because they in the drivers artificially cripple the DP performance, so paying more gets you far better DP performance from a quadro/firegl card. Some of the extra cost goes on support, quite a bit goes on teams to fix bugs quickly and a lot goes on marketing.

 

[bru]

Don't forget that they had planned to launch at Cebit, and show cards, which turned into a no card showing "architecture" launch. So thats another one, the rumours, if you look back, has Charlie back in June(and before it) saying it wouldn't be available till end Q1 2010 because he reckoned it would take at least 2 respins..........

That was before the A1 silicon taped out and came back and they tested it, I think he was saying as far back as late 2008 that he reckoned the GT300 would never make it in 2009.


Guru3d's article is basically repeating quite a bit of what Charlie has been saying for months, then trying to trash what Charlie's said for months and somehow coming up with the idea its his fantastic industry contacts that came up with all this info, that every has had for a long time.

Did you even read the guru3d article, only once does he mention "his primary contact at nvidia"

Last week I had a brief call with our primary NVIDIA contact regarding CeBIT and he didn't even mention Fermi once, when I asked when we could expect samples the word got out, likely during or after CeBIT. So while you'll see GeForce 400 boards shown at CeBIT, we do not expect it to launch next week.

what you will find the article says is what Hilbert Hagedoorn's take on the subject is, funny that is seems to coincide with the facts as we all know them.
yes he does mention Mr C and he even admits that a lot of Mr C's articles are as he puts it are semi accurate (such a nice little play on words he used).

once you've shouted me down .....EDITED yes you were right it was offensive and i appologise

 

[dragy2k]

why ohh why did nvidia hire him ...

 

[drunkenmaster]

Did you even read the guru3d article, only once does he mention "his primary contact at nvidia"



what you will find the article says is what Hilbert Hagedoorn's take on the subject is, funny that is seems to coincide with the facts as we all know them.
yes he does mention Mr C and he even admits that a lot of Mr C's articles are as he puts it are semi accurate (such a nice little play on words he used).

once you've shouted me down you can resume putting your tongue down the back of Mr C's trousers......

I'm honestly failing to see the point of anything you just wrote, I mean, at all.

I made a one sentence remark about the Guru 3d "story".


Firstly he said the Nvidia guy told him NOTHING, and after partners got some boards, he got info, so yes he did mention partners, and they were the source of his info and

Now here's the difference with the aforementioned website, we know the majority specs and some performance results, however I'm not about to share them, I mean come on ... give NVIDIA some credit here.

Sorry, what, give Nvidia some credit because you're not about to share some info, other than making no sense in the english langauge I think he's basically saying he's too scared to post info as he won't get a card to review, but somehow makes this a negative for Charlie. Yes as a reporter, trying to post some news and opinion, he's too scared to post his opinion and news, Charlie is all to willing to post info he gets without the fear of Nvidia wrath, what a terrible reporter/person that makes Charlie?

As for most of his article containing info we all know....... everything, every last thing he's come up with has been from Charlie. Nvidia don't announce respins, or specific yields. Every single piece of info he refers to, that you refer to as common knowledge, is info Charlie leaked. Yet throughout he has a go at Charlie. I don't need to even like CHarlie, to not like the guy whose using info Charlie gave to people, while disparaging that person. IT could have been anyone and its still a pointless article, telling us nothing while not so subtley having a go at a guy.

Considering the article says nothing, I really didn't see any point to it at all.

But again I see your response as even more pointless. I really fail to see what I said that was so inflamatory, or inaccurate, or what makes the article so gosh darn good that is was worth posting at all.

As for the last sentence of your post, frankly I take that as a personal insult, and offensive.

 

[tundra]

hopefully prices will drop