Spec my super-fussy friend...

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I have a friend who currently drives a pre-facelift 2002 Vectra, who is finally seeing sense and getting rid of the thing, trouble is, he wants to replace it with a Vectra VXR - any other VXR I could agree with, but I just don't see the point of the Vectra.

I've found him (For the same money he's look at spending on a VXR - 10k) so far;

I'll amend his comments to each car

E60 545i - Too ugly and generic looking
Audi S6 - Looks too dated
Alfa 159 Turismo - Front too "futuristic", back looks american
Mondeo ST220 - "gay generic ford curvy front"
Focus ST - "meh, you've got one, but same gay front"

Any suggestions on a car that could possible actually make him happy? He's open to suggestions, apparently, but claims he can't find anything he likes other than a Vectra VXR, or an A5 which he cannot afford.
 
well if hes set on vectra let it be lol.. seems like all he wants is that car or something he cant afford.. i mean i would take any of the ones you mentioned over the vectra..
 
Vauxhall Corsa, best car all rounder for that budget.

Just let him buy a Vectra. He cant be reasoned with especially if he thinks an e60 looks generic. I think it looks ugly but how can it be generic? The whole reason its ugly is because of its totally wacky stupid shape, hardly generic!
 
Meh, he seems to be nitpicking every car you suggest. Tell him to get the Vectra, because that's what he's set on and nothing anyone can say will change his mind.
 
Hrm, we can add an Astra VXR to the list of possibles.

I'm not so sure he really wants a Vectra, its just that he's simply too fussy, so just thinks about what he knows already.
 
your best not to try and disuade him out of this habit then.

He wont thank you for it.

My dad is exactly the same. Has bought 7 mazdas over the years. he had a short ownership of a rover 400, but went back to mazda and has never bought anything since. Refuses to test drive or look at anything else as he says he cant be bothered. He likes the mazda and doesnt want anything else.

I've argued and argued with him to at least go look at other cars, but he wont have none of it. He comes up with equally daft reasons too, he wont drive a ford as he "doesnt like ford gearboxes" despite not having driven one for probably 10 years. Insistence that they've changed since the days of the escort and sierra fall on deaf ears.

Experience tells me that this sort of person wont be reasoned with. Let him buy the VXR, it was a great car. I absolutely loved mine, theres very little wrong with it unless your highly opinnioned about it having too much power for FWD.
 
hes that picky yet he wants a vectra? what a nutter. would make for interesting straight line races against your ST though
 
If he's going to settle for Vectra and already has a Vectra then fussy he's not :)

fuss·y (fs)
adj. fuss·i·er, fuss·i·est
1. Easily upset; given to bouts of ill temper: a fussy baby.
2. Paying great or excessive attention to personal tastes and appearance; fastidious: He was always fussy about clothes.


Doesnt mean that "taste" that he is fussy about is one for the best quality or best drivers car around.

He's fussy because he likes his vectra, and doesnt want to change.

We both know that isn't me ;)

no, but it is a valid criticism of the car. Didnt bother me either mind. But if your friend is the sort that wants the ultimate driving experience (unlikely given his current car but you never know) then the vecta wont be the car for him.
 
Just get him to go and drive some of the cars, that's usually the best way to get over people's 'issues' with these things.. It's surprising how people can change their perceptions so easily when they experience things first hand..

Then if he still ignores everything and gets a Vectra, at least you know its the right car for him, however misguided you may feel the choice is..
 
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Then if he still ignores everything and gets a Vectra, at least you know its the right car for him, however misguided you may feel the choice is..

I don't see why he should bother to be honest. It's not worth it. If the OP persuades him to get a different car and something goes wrong with it, he'll blame the OP and claim that he "pressured" him get it instead of the Vectra. I'd just keep out of it and let him get what he wants.
 
Just get him to go and drive some of the cars, that's usually the best way to get over people's 'issues' with these things.. It's surprising how people can change their perceptions so easily when they experience things first hand..

Its funny you say that, he came out in my ST the other evening, and couldn't stop commenting on the difference in build quality in the interiors, and the ride comfort, despite my car being "sporty".

I think I'll take him to test drive some cars at the weekend, its always a fun experience anyway.
 
I don't see why he should bother to be honest. It's not worth it. If the OP persuades him to get a different car and something goes wrong with it, he'll blame the OP and claim that he "pressured" him get it instead of the Vectra. I'd just keep out of it and let him get what he wants.

That's not what I meant, you just get him to test drive a few and still make his own mind up, but at least he will have the experience of actually driving the cars when making the choice..

Of course if you badger them into getting a car you feel would be better and it goes Pete Tong, then you are right, but I'm not saying that :)
 
I gave up a long time ago trying to convince people to try certain things. Who can be bothered?? If they want a Vectra, let him get one.
 
Its funny you say that, he came out in my ST the other evening, and couldn't stop commenting on the difference in build quality in the interiors, and the ride comfort, despite my car being "sporty".

I think I'll take him to test drive some cars at the weekend, its always a fun experience anyway.

He commenting on build quality of two cars that are years apart in development. Just let him buy the Vectra and don't waste any more time trying to help him.
 
fuss·y (fs)
adj. fuss·i·er, fuss·i·est
1. Easily upset; given to bouts of ill temper: a fussy baby.
2. Paying great or excessive attention to personal tastes and appearance; fastidious: He was always fussy about clothes.


Doesnt mean that "taste" that he is fussy about is one for the best quality or best drivers car around.

He's fussy because he likes his vectra, and doesnt want to change.



no, but it is a valid criticism of the car. Didnt bother me either mind. But if your friend is the sort that wants the ultimate driving experience (unlikely given his current car but you never know) then the vecta wont be the car for him.

Is your old vectra still for sale?
 
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