*** Final Fantasy XIII ***

Why oh why have games started coming out more often at the start of the week :(. I miss my, grab it on the way home Friday night and binge it all weekend. :D.
 
- The combat itself is boring and completely unchallenging. You will spend 99% of the game pressing X, not until the very end of the game(outside a couple avatar battles) do you encounter any fights that require any major change of tactics, and when they do it's as simple as "change characters to defensive state, then go balls out until the next damage phase".

So exactly HOW different is this if you really look at all the past Final Fantasy games where for the majority of the time, you can easily get away with just spamming the Attack command to grind yourself through battles?

FFXIII's battle system is very similar to FFX-2's. FFX-2 was pretty fast itself, but FFXIII is just that bit more faster and you really have to pay attention to the numbers on-screen. Whilst you cannot control the other two characters in FFXIII, the different roles of the Paradigm Shift adds a similar but different layer to the way FFX-2's Dress Sphere system works. It's about using the right ones to keep yourself alive and being able to attack so there is some strategy and tactics involved.

I just wish they'd go back to their ATB roots.

All this auto-fight system stuff is just terrible.

Lost Odyssey was awesome and that uses good old ATB. Give me a game like that, but in full FF stylee and I'd be a happy happy man.

Lost Odyssey is actually traditional old-school Turn-Based. ATB is exclusive to the Final Fantasy games.
 
So exactly HOW different is this if you really look at all the past Final Fantasy games where for the majority of the time, you can easily get away with just spamming the Attack command to grind yourself through battles?

FFXIII's battle system is very similar to FFX-2's. FFX-2 was pretty fast itself, but FFXIII is just that bit more faster and you really have to pay attention to the numbers on-screen. Whilst you cannot control the other two characters in FFXIII, the different roles of the Paradigm Shift adds a similar but different layer to the way FFX-2's Dress Sphere system works. It's about using the right ones to keep yourself alive and being able to attack so there is some strategy and tactics involved.

Fair enough. That's a pretty good point!
 
Yeah I've read a lot of bad reviews and all my Japanese friends from FF11 have said it's pretty dire.

I wish companies would stop trying to make games just far too pretty. I'd take gameplay over graphics any day of the week.
 
So much hate! Just give the game a chance, it looks freakin epic I don't think anyone can deny that. Yeah that wierd kid from rpgfan who classes FF7/8/9 as overated dosen't like it, but frankly who cares.


Have it on preorder, not saying ignore the negativity but it's FF. A massive FF at that they must have put a hell of a lot of effort into making this game great.
 
Problem is i think half the negativity is for sake of it just because some one else said, dont get me wrong im saying people here are saying it but other forums i sometimes visit are "he/she said tis this or that"
 
So gentlemen, wheres the best place to pre-order this badboy? The Collectors Edition doesn't seem worth it to me, although I do prefer the more traditional front cover its not worth the extra 20 quid.

With it coming out on a Tuesday (WHY are they doing this!) I'm guessing a lot of companies will ship it thurs/fri the week before in order to be with you on launch day. Anyone fancy there chances of it turning up on the Friday?
Its so stupid to release a game midweek, it'll be sat on my shelf taunting me until I'm free on the weekend :(.

EDIT: Ignore me, just reread the competitors sticky.
 
I was planning to pick this up in store. But like others I'm thinking that pre-orders will ship before the weekend to insure delivery by the Tuesday; giving the chance of a Fri/Sat delivery.

Might be worth phoning a few customer service numbers to see what the postage trend is going to be for this obscure beginning-of-week release.
 
Ive ordered mine for £34.99 as mentioned in here But rumour has it that certain supermarkets might be doing a Modern Warfare 2 and selling it for prices such as £26 for the first week only. Not sure how true this is though.
 
Lost Odyssey is actually traditional old-school Turn-Based. ATB is exclusive to the Final Fantasy games.

Indeed it is you are correct.

However Turn-Based is still miles better than this stupid auto-battle stuff they have started to use :(
 
Indeed it is you are correct.

However Turn-Based is still miles better than this stupid auto-battle stuff they have started to use :(

Couldn't agree more.

I've tried to say clear of the thread but my excitement for this game is getting the better of me but I've holded off reading all but a couple of comments which thankfully aren't spoilers :P

Just two questions to anyone that has played the Jap version - are the sub-par review scores (I'd call them sub-par for a Final Fantasy game) justified or is it more likely a case of people have just overhyped the game too much and it didn't live up to unnecessarily high expectations? My other question was, as per X-2, can you disable ATB and go back to a regular turn based combat system or is the ATB too integral to the gameplay?

Sorry if these were already asked, I'm trying to not read the whole thread to avoid any spoilers.
 
Indeed it is you are correct.

However Turn-Based is still miles better than this stupid auto-battle stuff they have started to use :(

and that is why im avoiding this game, unfortunately. i hated FFXII because of the rubbish auto battle system. the setting was great, just the battle system spoilt it for me.

personally, i would love to see another final fantasy tactics! i like that slow sort of tactical battle. but i also do like the ATB battle system too.
 
This might sound like a silly question, but will the UK version use circle (O) as confirm like the good old days?

Its sounds stupid but this will probably determine whether I get it on PS3 or 360 :p. I know it will feel wrong playing a FF not on a Playstation but only if it makes me feel like I'm sat playing FF7/8 again. If not I might aswell feel alienated on the 360 and have the comfier controller and a potentially earlier first play.
 
I know for a fact that I will buy this and that it will probably be the 4th final fantasy game to disappoint me in a row, And even if I do hate it I can pretty much guarantee that I will buy 15 :p
 
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