Thanks for that starfighter.
The reason i was looking at the window was because it seemed like a good ship with which i could enter a region of space scout people at a really long range and then take them out at range with heavy missiles. If back up showed i could warp or cloak..
I know what you mean, I was attracted to cov ops also. However this ships is just to damn expensive to be on your own anywhere dangerous. They are pushing a billion isk. 10x a normal battleship. They are also not actually that hard either. they have a totally unique 99% pointless feature that is they have the ability to use a Cov Ops jump Bridge.
The only use is say you have a cloaked gang, they need backup, so they drop a cov ops cyno. (this is what ships "jump" to but non cop ops cynos can be warped to by anyone in system, this one is secret as it is cov ops)
You can then use this ship to "bridge" other cov ops ships in and then once they are through jump there yourself.
It is kind of cool because it is the only ship that can fit these covert jump bridges and is also the only sub capital ship that can "jump". However it is really pretty useless, small fuel bay and small jump range means you can't go far and the fact that you can only bring in more cov ops and yourself means it isn't even that uber. Just jump in a carrier instead.
Anyway, this is why I didn't go into Black ops, because it is really weird and no one uses them hardly, you couldn't have picked a worse ship.
If you want to sneak around and kill people you want a Force Recon or Stealth Bomber.These fit Covert ops cloaks so you can warp while cloaked and are both really good, we have much fun in gangs with these ships.
Stealth bombers do brutal damage. combined with the force Recon to stop them escaping it is game over.
However even then you have to be careful, if someone gets within a few KM they will DeCloak you and in 0.0 there are these things called bubbles that are put on the gate and warp scram anything that goes through.
so you are still not invincible. There are however now Tech3 Cruisers than can get past bubbles. This is really the only true cov ops ship imho as you can go where you like and pick targets. hate bubbles. but even then if you spawn in the wrong place on the other side of the gate and get decloaked and targeted and scrammed it is still game over so nothing is 100% safe
If i was a pirate and my standings were low enough for police/concord to shoot me on sight, would it not be possible to buy a Cloaking device and simply sneak past the forces or is that not possible? I know theres a 2500km range before the enemy can uncloak you.
Nothing will stop the Police. Well someone tried in Yulai about 5 years ago which was a famous event.
You can kill quite a large number of people in low sec without a big hit, its podding where it goes down a lot. and as many as you like in 0.0 without any problems.
When you say killing "rats", im a bit confused. My understanding was that "ratting" meant killing people mining in low sec areas which would lower your standing with that person and their corporation. If this was done in high sec areas standing would be lowered with concord aswell...
But after reading what you have said, i should kill miners etc to stop my rating going down?
ratting is a general term for killing NPCs, usually in asteroid belts, the ones in missions are also rats I suppose but it is normally called missioning.
If you kill players in high sec you will probably be killed by the police before you kill them so you won't lose much sec status.
In low sec you lose sec status, on 0.0 it is all good. To get Sec status back up you need to kill rats. rats are known pirates with bounties so it evens out your Karma kind of thing.
I was worried about getting an expensive ship but you made me realise i can just get it insured
Although i guess insurance will cost me about 8 million on a drake. Thats really expensive for someone with no solid income.
Once you have a Drake you will be able to do Level 3 and 4 missions, you should be making double that every hour. Insurance is really good, in theory if you don't have any modules and get the minerals on the cheap you can make a profit, people make a living from insurance jobs!
Can i go to low sec, join a pirate corp do some pvping and train up industry skills? I saw a guy the other day selling ships he built for 1 billion a piece!
You can do both fighting and industry skills. but obviously you would be better at focusing on one. a bit complicated but tech 1 items only need standard minerals and a BluePrint and very few skills (Industry V and Production efficiency V) so if you have spare minerals don't sell them but build ships and sell them. However the same goes for missioning, a decent mission runner should get a lot of minerals from look including high ends. (mega and zydrine which is like 30% of minerals for a ship you will have to buy or loot, it isn't in empire asteroids.)
Billion ISK ships will either be capital ships which are T1 do skills and ingredients are easy but take a hell of a lot of minerals. and I mean a crazy amount. dont even think about it for a long time. T2 and T3 requires a lot of effort and crazy skills and ingredients, but a T2 Battleship or a T3 cruiser is worth a billion. It also could have been a faction ship which are fancy T1 battleships. The main cost is the blueprint as they are really rare.
In all honesty just stay in empire and do level 3 and 4 missions, this is a very indepth game, stick with that for now. otherwise you will get owned and rage quit.
Ive been looking at the recruit window ingame, so many corps its really hard to decide which to join! I bet this game is best played with friends
Ill check out that video when i get home
The salvaging did look appealing rrof, i guess thats the best route for a pirate due to all the killin ye be doin ^^
yup, I play with friends from work and am in a corp with them all. I think OCUK will have some offers, everyone wants more members but there are restrictions on 0.0 corps. I am sure a kind soul will offer you an invitation any moment.
Overall my advice is train up until you have a battleship and can own level 4s and then consider joining a 0.0 corp. Pirating in low sec is not really that much fun for long.
