Fermi possible pricing

ennogs · 1 Mar 2010 at 19:10

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,705745/Geforce-GTX-4xx-Fermi-graphics-card-pictured-at-Cebit/News

solway · 1 Mar 2010 at 19:22

thanks

but any benchmarks?

300-400 euros = £270-360
500-600 euros = £450-540

not much then.
hang on i might have some under the sofa

Greebo · 1 Mar 2010 at 20:41

Won't that be plus VAt so

£317 to £423 for the lower model and

£529 to £635 for the GTX480?

I can see these flying off the shelf. :rolleyes:

Blackbadger · 1 Mar 2010 at 20:59

NVIDIA has released the following statement regarding pre-orders of their next generation GeForce graphics cards featuring the GF100 GPUs based on the Fermi nanoarchitecture:
QUOTE (NVIDIA)
NVIDIA and our launch partners have not released pricing or pre-order information yet. Any Web sites claiming to be taking pre-orders should not be considered legitimate.

At this time, pre-order sites should be not be considered legitimate in anyway. In most cases, the sites are likely scammers.

NVIDIA Official Forums

Keep up to date with the latest announcements & discussions on the hot topics.

forums.nvidia.com

I don't doubt for a moment that the cards wont be super cheap however there is no source to the information posted in the main link, making the figures as reliable as any of our guess's.

Greebo · 1 Mar 2010 at 21:12

Blackbadger said:
NVIDIA Official Forums

Keep up to date with the latest announcements & discussions on the hot topics.

forums.nvidia.com

I don't doubt for a moment that the cards wont be super cheap however there is no source to the information posted in the main link, making the figures as reliable as any of our guess's.

Except that they are at Cebit talking to the partners so there is every chance that although their partners haven;t officially released pricing yet, they would tip people off "unofficially".

On that basis, their info may well be better than our guesses.

Rroff · 1 Mar 2010 at 21:13

If it was £270 for the GTX460 or GTX470 I might just get 2 of them for SLI but most likely gonna give them a miss on launch and wait for the refresh.

xBLiNG · 1 Mar 2010 at 21:19

My guess would be one about 20% more powerful than a 5870 for around £350+

twist3d0n3 · 1 Mar 2010 at 21:46

xBLiNG said:
My guess would be one about 20% more powerful than a 5870 for around £350+

based on what?

Greebo · 1 Mar 2010 at 21:48

twist3d0n3 said:
based on what?

Nothing. It's a guess. If he's right he can link back to his post and bask in the glory.

If wrong, he hopes nobody quotes him.

kitch9 · 1 Mar 2010 at 22:05

xBLiNG said:
My guess would be one about 20% more powerful than a 5870 for around £350+

How's the pixie dust over there in magical mystery land?

bfar · 1 Mar 2010 at 22:10

Greebo said:
Won't that be plus VAt so

£317 to £423 for the lower model and

£529 to £635 for the GTX480?

I can see these flying off the shelf.

Apparently supply will be very tight as yields are low, maybe only a few thousand cards. So all they need is a few thousand idiots :rolleyes:

I reckon you won't be able to get near one of these until June.

This one's looking like it's definitely worth waiting for a refresh or going red.

xBLiNG · 1 Mar 2010 at 22:11

twist3d0n3 said:
based on what?

Based on nothing, as said, it's my guess. I know it wont happen from nVidia, but if it did they would sell well, works out at what? £50 for and extra 20% only downside is that these cards will probably have high power consumption and heat output.

twist3d0n3 · 1 Mar 2010 at 22:20

xBLiNG said:
Based on nothing, as said, it's my guess. I know it wont happen from nVidia, but if it did they would sell well, works out at what? £50 for and extra 20% only downside is that these cards will probably have high power consumption and heat output.

fair enough, i just can't see it happening. it is nvidia after all

isn't the performance of fermi going to be a tad difficult to compare directly to the 5*** series due to the way fermi implements tessellation? i'd presume in non-tessellated scenes the comparison would be clearer, but from what i remember reading, tessellation in fermi being done on the shaders as opposed to a separate unit like in the radeons is going to cause a big performance hit?

Greebo · 1 Mar 2010 at 22:24

twist3d0n3 said:
fair enough, i just can't see it happening. it is nvidia after all

isn't the performance of fermi going to be a tad difficult to compare directly to the 5*** series due to the way fermi implements tessellation? i'd presume in non-tessellated scenes the comparison would be clearer, but from what i remember reading, tessellation in fermi being done on the shaders as opposed to a separate unit like in the radeons is going to cause a big performance hit?

Yep so it will be the fermi is best for some games, the 5xxx series for others. You buy your card based on what type of game you like playing the most.

twist3d0n3 · 1 Mar 2010 at 22:27

Greebo said:
Yep so it will be the fermi is best for some games, the 5xxx series for others. You buy your card based on what type of game you like playing the most.

but surely tessellation (and whatever else is in dx11) is going to become more prominent in games in the next year or so, and consequently giving ati the advantage?

Greebo · 1 Mar 2010 at 22:32

twist3d0n3 said:
but surely tessellation (and whatever else is in dx11) is going to become more prominent in games in the next year or so, and consequently giving ati the advantage?

Maybe so but you will have to wait for these games to appear and then compare. With the sheer power of Fermi it will be close in some games.

It all comes down to price. If a gtx480 is the same price as a 5870 then you take your pick (I doubt it will though)

twist3d0n3 · 1 Mar 2010 at 22:37

Greebo said:
Maybe so but you will have to wait for these games to appear and then compare. With the sheer power of Fermi it will be close in some games.

It all comes down to price. If a gtx480 is the same price as a 5870 then you take your pick (I doubt it will though)

yeah, i'm of the same opinion. i have a feeling that it'll be a bigger die and so more expensive, following the current trend

Rroff · 1 Mar 2010 at 23:11

ATI won't have an advantage in tessellation - unless the retail GF100 products are massively less than even the conservative 1296MHz shader clocks.

xBLiNG · 1 Mar 2010 at 23:13

I just don't see nVidia being able to pull this one at the last minute, realistically Fermi will not be anything massive over the 5870 or 5970 but will have massive price tags along with giant heat output and high total power draw, but oh well, hopefully will bump the ATi prices down a little.

Greebo · 1 Mar 2010 at 23:19

Rroff said:
ATI won't have an advantage in tessellation - unless the retail GF100 products are massively less than even the conservative 1296MHz shader clocks.

Care to quantify? I thought it has been shown/rumoured already that in heavy tessellation scenes the Fermi uses up so many of its shaders the performance drops?

Hence I think it will be up and down as to where Fermi wins and looses.