Cycling Vs Rowing Machine

[Buffman]

Should be by whose standards?

is it a concept 2 you're using (I find my own one measures a lot less distance for the same strokes)? because 5k seems quite slow for 2000m (I normally hit 5k-5.5k in 20 minutes steady state) whereas HIIT I was hitting 3k in around 10 minutes, 4k by <15 etc.
Obviously this matters not really and all you want really for HIIT is for your heart rate to be nice n high

 

[BennyC]

Obviously this matters not really and all you want really for HIIT is for your heart rate to be nice n high

Yup, wouldn't matter how great or little distance you covered as long as your body is at its limit.

 

[Participant]

Yes it's a Concept 2 and obviously what I could do flat out for 20 minutes, is going to be far more than what I can do with HIIT in 20 minutes, since during the minute's rest I'm resting and only doing 18 strokes per minutes so that I can really go flat out in the sprint (35 strokes per minute for me). Also it's on the highest damper setting, not sure if this is wise or detrimental. If you're working too hard in the rest period it's not really HIIT, as your sprints will suffer.

By the end I have to sit there for a minute or so recovering and taking water, I'm pushing it as hard as I can go without actually feeling like I'm going to be sick. Maybe I'm just a weak / unfit / crap rower, I really wasn't posting the 4000m figure in the hope of receiving some kind of adulation!

 

[BennyC]

Distance covered isn't important on HIIT.

I can't remember what distance I cover during HIIT but during the summer was getting 10KM in under 42minutes. That wasn't particulary beasting it either. Avg 2:00/500m.

I usually see low 1:30/500m's or high 1:25/500m's during my sprints and then slow down to around 2:50/500m on the recovery periods.

What I, others or even you manage to hit/cover really doesn't matter. Some people can cycle for hours on end, others can run for ages, some can row for eternity. You're not competing so it's not important

 

[Buffman]

Hmmm maybe my HIIT isnt high enough intensity then I tend to hit ~1.40-1.50 for 1 minute, 1.30/2 min rest (~2.15-2.20/500m) then hit it again for a minute

 

[BennyC]

Intervals should be short, ideally sub 30 seconds or long enough until you find your 'sprint' speed slows. If you can go for a minute flat out, your not going flat out. Think how long can you sprint? I mean REALLY ******* sprint! The idea is to use the anerobic energy system. You should literally be gasping for air as you can't oxygenate your blood quick enough.

I'm literally flying around all over the rower on the verge of falling off!

/500m times are generally down to technique and getting the power down something I seem to have mastered the technique for and am quite good at. Use strokes per minute or watts as a better measure.

 

[Stinky]

makes my rowing look shocking . lol

im generally pretty unfit, hense why im getting into it now. and i tend to do 6700metre on a 30min setting. thats going at a constant pace for me. guess im just a fatty at the moment lol

as for running, ive never got on with it, find i run out of go far to early, find that at the moment i am sitting on the cycling machine for 40mins on difficulty level 4 and keeping between 80 - 90 rpm. once i get to the last 10 mins i will do HIIT upping to around 100 - 105 rpm for 30 seconds and down to 80rpm for 1 minute.

defo gets me sweating like a ****** lol

 

[platypus]

Should be by whose standards?

A decent female rower's?

I was going to have a jibe but adbp owned you hard .

By the end I have to sit there for a minute or so recovering and taking water, I'm pushing it as hard as I can go without actually feeling like I'm going to be sick. Maybe I'm just a weak / unfit / crap rower, I really wasn't posting the 4000m figure in the hope of receiving some kind of adulation!

Aww, where's the fluffle smiley.

 

[Participant]

Ok just for you ****ers, next time I row I'll do 20 minutes steady and see how far I get . Should be some good motivation thinking about pratypus's weakling jibes .

 

[platypus]

Ach we're only teasing you. You big girls' blouse .

 

[Participant]

I know, I'm bantering back you hairy ape!

 

[BennyC]

I know, I'm bantering back you hairy ape!

Save it for the rowers ladies

 

[Participant]

For the record, I was kidding. I have no idea what he looks like!

 

[drunkenmaster]

As people said, cycling you're only using your legs, and more importantly not supporting your body weight at all. Rowing you're pulling with arms and pushing with legs so doing more work, which means a lot more muscles being used but still not supporting body weight.

Running/walking, you're using your legs very hard, moving arms but not hugely hard but the whole time supporting your weight which means the workload on your legs is very hard, your joints have most of the support muscles active aswell as its not a mostly fixed motion like the other two, you're holding up your body weight so your back, abs, ass, quads, everything is working harder so its the best workout you can do, but obviously a lot more impact on your leg joints than the other two.

Then you've got all the crosstrainer type things, personally I don't like using any of them.

 

[BennyC]

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You've also got your arms out infront of you as opposed to down by yourside which means your heart has to pump harder to push blood along them as mavity isn't helping with blood flow quite so much. You should also be leant slightly back whilst rowing so your core is braced.

We could go on for days

BOTH good workouts

 

[platypus]

Rowing you're pulling with arms and pushing with legs...

Insert <"your doing it wrong"> pic here.

 

[-Ad-]

Rowing you're pulling with arms and pushing with legs so doing more work, which means a lot more muscles being used but still not supporting body weight.

Seconded on the doing it wrong pic if you are doing it that way around.

If you are getting into ergos or have never done rowing before then watch some technique videos online and practise. Doing it wrong will do nothing for you and could even lead to injury over time. About 90% of people I see on the ergos are doing it wrong or seriously wrong! Might start giving people tips, but I'l more than likely receive a barrage of abuse

It's all abouth the drive with the legs with your arms only being used after your leg drive is nigh over when you trasnition into the arm pull and slight lean back to finish. Straight away push down with the arms and away quickly over your knees. DO NOT start to bend you knees until your arms a pushed away straight and past your knees back towards the fan housing.

Control your slide speed as well, and stick with 24-28 for an avergae pace. Flying up at 36spm is more race pace when you are going hell for leather in a 2k test or during interval training.

 

[platypus]

Doing it wrong will do nothing for you and could even lead to injury over time.

This is the main reason for hating Ergs as a rower. All they do is reinforce bad technique, and exaggerate injuries should you get a niggle or a strain.