Argentina imposes shipping rules to the falklands.
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No.
this.
it's just sabre rattling, the US rightfully won't get drawn into domestic politics. If there was anything to it they would be providing logistics.
I must agree with this, but it still doesnt stop me getting absoloutley livid every time I read about this issue and tossers like Hillary Clinton and that useless **** Obama (the day everyone realises what a useless ******* fraud that **** is and he gets kicked out will be a great day) are encouraging the Argentinians with non commital statements or complete twoddle about how we should be negotiating with them.
What negotiation? My negotiation technique would be to go to the meeting with them and walk in, flick them both the V's then stroll back out. Ultimately we will veto any action and it will come to nothing, especially considering the fact that the Falkland Islanders are pretty much 100% behind being British but still boils my ****.
To put the shakers on America (essentially they are seeing us as the nodding dog ally who they can slap around a bit and we will not react) we should serve them notice on any military facilities which are on British soil including Ascension and the Changos. Within minutes, never mind hours, of any such announcement their attitude would change quicker than the Argies would run if it came to war.
I have lost all respect (what little I had anyway) for America over these last few weeks. Extremely disapointed at their lack of regard for an ally and I think it is our turn to get one back over the arrogant ******.
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I'm more bothered by America than Argentina
I'm more bothered by America than Argentina
That's exactly what I'm refering to. American's stance/reaction is a complete non-issue. People are subscribing offence because they have a misinformed ideal about how the world is and works.
Just because America aren't vocal in their political support of the UK in this issue, does not mean that:
(a) culturally, their people by and large do not appreciate us.
(b) that this affects in any way shape or form the outcome - the UK has a veto in the UN, the US knows this.
The US knows that the UK government is mature enough to not take this as an insult because it isn't. The US understands that the UK will do what it wants to on this issue and the US is simply playing for the best outcome in its backyard because that is, rather than the Falklands, where the more pressing issue rests for them. The US is humouring its neighbours, nothing more. Relax and see it for what it is.
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I think it is an insult. Entire wars have been thought over things as silly as this to be honest.
But I am relaxed, partially as I dislike the American government (past and present) anyway (Lets see... they insisted on the demise of the Empire circa 1945, Suez, Grenada etc...).
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I just find this whole thing dull to be fair. People love their over-dramatizations and macho declarations. This whole thread is like watching an episode of Fox News.
Why is it an insult? It's only an insult because you're choosing to subject it as such. I very much doubt this is the political snub that you're all so certain it is.
What's happening at the moment isn't really comparable to the Suez is it? America aren't exactly throwing their weight aroundor threatening to economically cripple us. But yes, I see your point but such are the perks of sitting in the global throne. I'm sure we had our fair slice of such things.
Incidently the Suez is a period of history I've been meaning to read up on too as I only have a surface understanding. Don't know of any literature do you?
It is an insult to all the dead British soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan, as it seems that America does not value the fact that we have stood behind them in those 2 wars.
Given how our forces have been backing them 100% in two wars that have nothing to do with us, I expect some similar treatment in return from USA. We are not asking them to invade or defend the Falklands, all we need is for them to either butt-out, or if they have to say something, say that they fully support Britain in this.
What kind of ally says something in support of the "other side"?
Absolute rubbish.
Again, it's a non-issue and it's just political humouring of geographic neighbours. The UK is old enough and should be wise enough by now to not get worked-up over this. It'd be far more of an insult if the USA felt they had to pander to us. They're not; they're letting us do our thing whilst keeping on good terms with its neighbours; there is absolutely nothing to get worked up about here.
If the USA turned around and said "Right, no more: give back the Falklands or else." then you would have something to complain about.
Absolute and utter storm in a teacup; get over it.
USA was unhappy over our release of Al Megrahi (or however you spell it), why did they get worked up about something that was OUR issue given how he was tried etc here.
Would USA be happy if we went and became best mates with NK, Iran, Chavez etc?
I love how you're jumping the gun there, well done.
They got worked up because they felt that it was an insult but we're comparing apples and oranges here, so let's not drag that one out.
I wouldn't care. How does whom the USA decides to be friends with have any bearing on me or the UK in general if our current relationship maintains its status quo?
You seem to have it in your head that the status quo is being upset at present and there's no such thing occuring. You're jumping the gun.
We're not supposed to do anything. The idea of being an ally with any other nation-state is that of mutual benefits and trying not to hurt the other guy. Friends may fall-out but they usually get over it and forgive each-other because that's what friends do.
The USA is not harming our foreign relations in any shape or form by taking the position they have over the Falklands; that's your own misconception.
The USA aren't running in to help us here because quite simply: we do not need it. Therefore the US are using the situation to try and gain some political foothold in their backyard for effectively nothing. They're not rubbing shoulders at our expense, they're just manipulating the situation for potential gains. That's all! Get down off your damn soap-box, it's boring.
The US is giving some legitimacy to the Argentine claim on the world stage, by saying that they would mediate talks - it makes it sound like there actually is an issue that needs to be discussed, which there isn't.
Islands have been ours for centuries, we kicked the scummy Argies off them in the last war so they are also ours due to that.
As I said, what do you think would happen if UK decided tomorrow that they want to be best mates with Iran due to them having oil - I bet you USA would NOT be pleased.
Islands have been ours for centuries, we kicked the scummy Argies off them in the last war so they are also ours due to that.
As I said, what do you think would happen if UK decided tomorrow that they want to be best mates with Iran due to them having oil - I bet you USA would NOT be pleased.