Kid in charge of air traffic

[I get around]

Complete over reaction, but it's america isn't it.

 

[platypus]

It is a shame it's being blown out of proportions. The kid probably had a whale of a time and the father was just being a good dad.

 

[Taziir]

To be fair, the kid sounded like he knew what he was doing

Probably logged time in MS Flight Sim X

 

[markweatherill]

It's OK. It isn't as if the kid was a Muslim or anything.

 

[The Dread Pirate]

 

[jakedude182]

yeah I am with the majority, and only if any harm was done should a big fuss like this have been made. Saying that he is in a pro job.

 

[neodude]

Complete over reaction, but it's america isn't it.

It would have been worse in this country.

 

[scorza]

All those people saying it's basically OK for this to happen. Presumably you're also OK with barrister's kids to cross-examine people in court under direction from their parent?

 

[-BA-]

Some of the comparisons in this thread are a little off kilter but this actually comes down to one thing. A complete and utter lack of professionalism in an critically important role that one is paid a significant amount of money to do.

P*** about on your own time, not the company's. Is that ATC actually fully paying attention to his job whilst his kid is hanging about? Like hell he is. Having that kid on site would have effected the attention span of all the ATCs in the room, some because they would be annoyed at the disturbance and others thinking, "Aww how cute." It wasn't a place for kids, end of...

 

[Burned_Alive]

I don't know if anyone remembers the Aeroflot Flight 593 incident in 1994 but the pilot let his 15 year old son take control of the plane, it resulted in the plane crashing with all 75 passengers and crew dead.

Wasnt this due to to a design flaw with the plane that was only highlighted, unfortunately, by this particular incident?

 

[GreatAuk]

All those people saying it's basically OK for this to happen. Presumably you're also OK with barrister's kids to cross-examine people in court under direction from their parent?

Well tbh, as long as the kid was saying everything the barrister would say then no I wouldn't have a problem personally. After all, in such a comparison the barrister would be able to jump in at any point if the kid went off topic or something.

 

[leezer3]

All those people saying it's basically OK for this to happen. Presumably you're also OK with barrister's kids to cross-examine people in court under direction from their parent?

You're showing a total and utter lack of understanding of the situation

As far as I can see (hear ), the kid is not directing planes in the air, simply relaying predetermined instructions to planes taxiing, and is under full supervision from his father. The only conceivable way I can see of him doing any real damage is to direct a plane onto an in-use runway, and there should be multiple safeguards to prevent this, without ATC intervention.

Planes in the air is a different kettle of fish, as it requires dynamic responses, but this isn't that situation.
Similarly, in court is an entirely different situation; This again requires a dynamic response.

-Leezer-

 

[Yas786]

It's OK. It isn't as if the kid was a Muslim or anything.

Yeh because all muslim kids are terrorists wanting to bring down airplanes..

Honestly i dont see the fuss with this whole thing...kid was supervised and was only told to say certain things ie its not like he placed any of the planes in danger.

And Scorza lol just lol at your lame attempts to bring outrage to this thread

 

[scorza]

You're showing a total and utter lack of understanding of the situation

OMG YOU USED ROLLEYES AT ME YOU'RE WORSE THAN HITLER!!!

ATC communication with the plane is all part of the safety critical chain, if something went wrong because the kid didn't repeat something quite right then people's lives would be put at risk. That is quite simply unacceptable, unless someone can point me at an approved CAA procedure which states that ATCs may direct non-trained controller communication with a plane?

 

[Tr Insanity]

wrong because the kid didn't repeat something quite right then people's lives would be put at risk.

Because of course if he didn't repeat someone quite right nothing would happen to prevent potential risk?

 

[Rich1988]

haha thats awesome!

 

[Tefal]

Yeh because all muslim kids are terrorists wanting to bring down airplanes..

I think that was his point mate.....

 

[jaybee]

I'm on the fence with this one. Kid and the Dad having a nice time together, but of all the jobs for this to happen and in America too. I'm surprised that some of the pilots didn't ask for confirmation of the orders to be honest. Perhaps some did, it may not have played all of them.

 

[Xenoxide]

All those people saying it's basically OK for this to happen. Presumably you're also OK with barrister's kids to cross-examine people in court under direction from their parent?

Yes. As long as the decisions are left in the hands of the parent and the child is just saying what his parent is telling him to.

That's all that happened here.

 

[scorza]

Because of course if he didn't repeat someone quite right nothing would happen to prevent potential risk?

So the risk of using non-trained ATCs to communicate with the planes has been properly assessed and deemed to be acceptable?

The way people go on about ATCs in this forum anyone would think they were gods - they aren't they're human beings like you or I and therefore will make mistakes from time to time, which is why approved procedures are developed and must be followed in order to minimise that risk.