What are the laws about shooting birds?

[Gilly]

I don't see much wrong here to be honest, except perhaps the child is still a little young.

I was out shooting rabbits and the like with my Dad and Grandad not I was not much older.

The shooting of ducks down the canal seems a bit dubious, especially with an air rifle. It is quite easy to kill a rabbit with a single shot with a good gun, I imaging a duck is much more difficult.

 

[Gaygle]

Shooting them is a bit excessive but throwing a bucket water at them or hosing them down is acceptable in my eyes. How else will the cats know to not **** in gardens ?

Not according to AH2. Teaching kids how to kill and gut animals helps them understand where meat comes from.

There's also a dog that barks a lot in the morning... hmmm....

 

[Gaygle]

The shooting of ducks down the canal seems a bit dubious, especially with an air rifle. It is quite easy to kill a rabbit with a single shot with a good gun, I imaging a duck is much more difficult.

Dubious at best. Illegal more like.

 

[Glaucus]

Not according to AH2. Teaching kids how to kill and gut animals helps them understand where meat comes from.

There's also a dog that barks a lot in the morning... hmmm....

You do know there are different classes.

Some animals it is just illegal to kill,
Others you need a license and can only kill in season,
Other are classed as vermina nd you can kill with land owners permision.

And yes people understanding where meat comes from and how to kill it, cook it, eat it. Is a great thing.

 

[al123]

I've shot since I was 10, so obviously it's not the kid going shooting I have a problem with.

It is the shooting ducks, on a canal with an air rifle that is the problem.

 

[Gaygle]

You do know there are different classes.

Some animals it is just illegal to kill,
Others you need a license and can only kill in season,
Other are classed as vermina nd you can kill with land owners permision.

Maybe you should qualify your remarks in future. Chances are, killing ducks in a canal with an air rifle is illegal, and as such your comments weren't appropriate with regards to this thread.

And yes people understanding where meat comes from and how to kill it, cook it, eat it. Is a great thing.

I don't understand how you have to shoot a duck with an air rifle to understand where meat comes from. Can't you just open a book or search the internet?

 

[snowdog]

Not according to AH2. Teaching kids how to kill and gut animals helps them understand where meat comes from.

There's also a dog that barks a lot in the morning... hmmm....

To be fair, if he was shooting birds for the food I wouldn't complain at all and don't think it's bad.

Shooting them for the sake of it while luring them with bread and then letting his ferret finish them is a bit pointless and causes unnecessary suffering.

 

[Glaucus]

Maybe you should qualify your remarks in future. Chances are, killing ducks in a canal with an air rifle is illegal, and as such your comments weren't appropriate with regards to this thread.

Killing ducks is not illegal,
On a canal it probably is as he doesn't have land owners permission and it's discharging a weapon in a public area.

there is no need to qualify that statement it makes pe4rfect sense and is relevant to the thread. As the OP came across that killing animals is wrong. it is not in the slightest.

I don't understand how you have to shoot a duck with an air rifle to understand where meat comes from. Can't you just open a book or search the internet?

You know full well it is not the same and people do not make the connection. there is nothing wrong with killing your own meat. Why do you see it as an inheritntly bad thing?

To be fair, if he was shooting birds for the food I wouldn't complain at all and don't think it's bad.

He is shooting them for food, killing them and then feeding them to his ferrets. Nothing wrong with that. Just weapon in public, land owners permission and possibly license/season.

 

[al123]

Nothing wrong with that. Just weapon in public, land owners permission and possibly license/season.

Oh nothing wrong there then...

 

[Gaygle]

You know full well it is not the same and people do not make the connection. there is nothing wrong with killing your own meat. Why do you see it as an inheritntly bad thing?

I don't at all. I just don't feel that my education has suffered as a result of not shooting an animal. But i don't have anything against anyone who hunts with the proper equipment, in the proper area, at the proper time.

Shooting ducks with an air rifle at the local canal whilst bullying his nephew into helping is none of that.

He is shooting them for food, killing them and then feeding them to his ferrets. Nothing wrong with that.

But he's not doing it legally!

1) It's cruel.
2) It's likely to cause alarm/distress to a MOP that see's this.
3) It's in a public area.

And my personal view is that shooting ducks isn't really necessary. What sort of fussy ferret won't eat food from a supermarket?

Just weapon in public, land owners permission and possibly license/season.

Oh, so nothing major then.

 

[Makhaira]

Illegal - you can't shoot ducks with that (season, and lead).

Even more illegal - trespass with an air weapon - jail sentence.

On behalf of all law abiding shooters in the UK, please report this **** before it reflects badly on the responsible members of society.

 

[al123]

Illegal - you can't shoot ducks with that (season, and lead).

Even more illegal - trespass with an air weapon - jail sentence.

On behalf of all law abiding shooters in the UK, please report this **** before it reflects badly on the responsible members of society.

 

[Cosimo]

Illegal - you can't shoot ducks with that (season, and lead).

Even more illegal - trespass with an air weapon - jail sentence.

On behalf of all law abiding shooters in the UK, please report this **** before it reflects badly on the responsible members of society.

... and on behalf of the ducks.

 

[john_s]

... and on behalf of the ducks.

That's just quackers!









(Sorry, someone had to! )

 

[Westyfield2]

Illegal - you can't shoot ducks with that (season, and lead).

Even more illegal - trespass with an air weapon - jail sentence.

On behalf of all law abiding shooters in the UK, please report this **** before it reflects badly on the responsible members of society.

Hope he gets done withh the full force of the law.

Pheasants on your own land I'm fine with, but this = scum.

 

[bloodline76]

Not according to AH2. Teaching kids how to kill and gut animals helps them understand where meat comes from.

And the otherside of killing animals

http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=132

 

[RDM]

To be fair, if he was shooting birds for the food I wouldn't complain at all and don't think it's bad.

I thought he was shooting them for food? Just not for human consumption?

 

[bloodline76]

I thought he was shooting them for food? Just not for human consumption?

He is shooting them because...

He shoot the duck to feed his ferret...

He got the ferret to kill the rabbit...

He eats the rabbit...

I dont know why he swallowed a fly perhaphs he'd die...

Oh sorry thats the wrong song

 

[Rainmaker]

And my personal view is that shooting ducks isn't really necessary. What sort of fussy ferret won't eat food from a supermarket?

A healthy one? Ferrets are meant to eat whole carcasses and the like; they're obligate carnivores and you'd be hard pressed to find 'ferret food' in a supermarket. There are one or two manufacturers of 'ferret food' but they're not very good and no replacement for flesh, blood and bone.

Shooting them for the sake of it while luring them with bread and then letting his ferret finish them is a bit pointless and causes unnecessary suffering.

If you re-read the OP, it says he shoots the ducks dead so that he can feed his ferrets with them. No doubt his hungry ferrets are running up and down their court at home waiting for their dinner at the time. Nobody said he lured them to be caught by ferrets. This discussion has enough emotive pandering (someone even linked to PETA for crying out loud lol) without distorting the facts of the case also.

He's a tool for shooting in a public place, and taking game out of season. But that's as far as it goes. Getting kids involved in shooting, hunting with ferrets and dogs and so on is a great pastime. Ohnoesletsringsocialservieszomg.

As was said earlier, it seems most of the OP's anger is misdirected rage that someone is killing animals.

 

[Albo]

You can shoot vermin all year round (rabbits, rats, pigeons, crows, doves etc) provided you have permission to shoot on the land from the landowner.

You can shoots ducks inland from Sept1 - Jan 31, or feb 20th below high water mark. Again, with permission. So he's shooting out of season for starter.

If he's shooting them on private land it's armed tresspass which means he's gonna get pwned. He could go down for 5 years.

If it's public land, it's still illegal. Even having the air rifle loaded and out of the slip is an offence, although not as stiff penalty.

Also, if he's the type of person to do this, he's probably the tyype of person that might want to increase the power of his rifle over 12ft lbs, making it a firearm. If he aint got an FAC (firearms certificate) he'll get screwed on that too.