What are the laws about shooting birds?

Gaygle said:
But he's not doing it legally!




Oh, so nothing major then.
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where did I say he was doing it legally? Where did I say it was ok? Nowhere. There's two debates here killing animals and legality. I was talking about the rights of killing animals. Who cares if meat is available in the supermarket, doesn't mean people shouldn't hunt.
 
Gaygle,

shooting animals isn't cruel.... mass breeding GM'd chicken freaks in cages is cruel.

If I shoot an animal-

1. It's had a natural life
2. Lights go out instantly - no suffering
3. I get free food
4. It didn't die for no reason
5. Farmer gets a problem sorted
6. I get out n about away from the computer screen.

win win win win win win
 
Albo said:
Gaygle,

shooting animals isn't cruel.... mass breeding GM'd chicken freaks in cages is cruel.

If I shoot an animal-

1. It's had a natural life
2. Lights go out instantly - no suffering
3. I get free food
4. It didn't die for no reason
5. Farmer gets a problem sorted
6. I get out n about away from the computer screen.

win win win win win win
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I didn't say shoot animals was cruel. I didn't say that at all.

I said shooting them with a rubbish air rifle is cruel.
 
Rainmaker said:
If you re-read the OP, it says he shoots the ducks dead so that he can feed his ferrets with them.
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I missed that bit.
No doubt his hungry ferrets are running up and down their court at home waiting for their dinner at the time. Nobody said he lured them to be caught by ferrets.
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But he did say he lured them, to shoot them with the rifle aftewards.
This discussion has enough emotive pandering (someone even linked to PETA for crying out loud lol) without distorting the facts of the case also
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Wasn't me, I thought he was killing them for fun, not for food for his ferrets, my fault for not reading correctly I know but this does change my opinion of it.

He's a tool for shooting in a public place, and taking game out of season. But that's as far as it goes. Getting kids involved in shooting, hunting with ferrets and dogs and so on is a great pastime. Ohnoesletsringsocialservieszomg.
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Again, that wasn't me, I'd love to hunt a few animals sometime but it feels a little bit wrong to kill them for no other reason but fun ( though I won't stop/protest anyone doing it, if they do think it's acceptable then I wouldn't stop them, unlike some annoying hippy's/protesters these days who violently try to stop it ). However, if it's for supper or a pest or some other legitimate reason, you might as well have as much fun as possible while doing it imo.

As was said earlier, it seems most of the OP's anger is misdirected rage that someone is killing animals.
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It does indeed read that way.
 
snowdog said:
Wasn't me...

...Again, that wasn't me
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Sorry snowdog, I should perhaps have been clearer. The only response in my post directed at you was to point out you'd misread the OP regarding the ferrets. The rest of it was my general contribution, which wasn't in reply to, or aimed at, you. :)
 
Rainmaker said:
If you re-read the OP, it says he shoots the ducks dead so that he can feed his ferrets with them. No doubt his hungry ferrets are running up and down their court at home waiting for their dinner at the time. Nobody said he lured them to be caught by ferrets. This discussion has enough emotive pandering (someone even linked to PETA for crying out loud lol) without distorting the facts of the case also.
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Maybe you like PETA shouldnt take peoples comments so seriously :rolleyes:

I put a ;) after my comment. Its a cheaky wink. :p
 
bloodline76 said:
Maybe you like PETA shouldnt take peoples comments so seriously :rolleyes:

I put a ;) after my comment. Its a cheaky wink. :p
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I saw the wink. ;) But PETA are so despicable my blood boils just seeing them linked. You know what they say; all publicity is good publicity. Those freaks should be buried and never spoken of again.
 
AcidHell2 said:
You make it sound like teaching kids to hunt and gut is terrible. It is a good thing. They'll appreciate what meat is and where it comes from. You sure you hatred of killing animals isn't tainting your view?

You can kill rabbits as they are classed as vermin.

You can also kill ducks but I would have thought they would have a season and license?

What is he using to shoot when a kid is in front of him?

there's also the issue that you need land owners permission.
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Bullying and intimidating a child to do something is another matter.
 
Gaygle said:
I didn't say shoot animals was cruel. I didn't say that at all.

I said shooting them with a rubbish air rifle is cruel.
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Gaygle said:
But he's not doing it legally!

1) It's cruel.
2) It's likely to cause alarm/distress to a MOP that see's this.
3) It's in a public area.
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And shooting them with a rubbish air rifle's cruel!? WTF? Do you mean ANY air rifle (in which case you're mistaken) or the quality of HIS air rifle (which hasn't been discussed)?
 
To be fair I don't really agree with the shooting ducks thing but I think the main issue is that he's bullying his child into doing something the kid doesn't want to do. Whether people think the kid should be taught to kill and gut animals if he doesn't want to do it he shouldn't be forced/bullied into it.

ETA: I do think he should get into trouble for doing what he's doing then. He seems like an idiot.
 
Armed trespass is a serious offence. If he is shooting on public or private land without the permission of the landowner or tenant, then that's what he's doing. Penalty 3 months in prison and or £2500.00 fine.
It is a serious offence to kill or injure any bird or protected animal with an airgun unless you are a person 'authorised' under the wildlife and countryside act 1981 - £5000.00 fine.

http://www.basc.org.uk/en/codes-of-practice/air-rifles.cfm

I'd 'suggest' to your brother in law that he stop being a ****.

I'm sure the young lad would remember a visit from the police firearms squad pointing real firearms at them both - they don't know it's 'only an airgun' and will treat any situation with the prospect of the use of deadly force accordingly. Perhaps you might relay this information to your sister regarding what the consequences of a member of the public reporting 'someone with a gun' in a public place, might be. Unless she's a douche also, I think she'd probably take a very dim view of having her boy put in such a situation.
 
What are my options? What can I do?
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Find yourself a nice spot hidden away and shoot the **** in the nutsack a few times.

No sorry, in all seriousness i would report him. I would do the above however that would lead your arrest and a spell in the clink and we can't do that can we? :D
The guy sounds like a right idiot though so i would'nt even think twice about reporting him to someone even if it meant getting the rozzers involved in the matter as treating a child the way he does is disgraceful and he should know better.
Also as someone else said on here earlier (or words similar to this) if he wants to do any kind of hunting then he should go the right way about it by doing it in the right locations (with permission from land owners or whatever) and using the right equipment with caution and due care.
Shows you what a pranny he is for shooting the poor sods with an air rifle when they are sitting there as anyone can do that.... perhaps he should try skeet shooting? Mind you i don't think they would let an idiot like that have a license to be honest.
I don't like this hunting stuff anyway..it's never been my cup of tea and never will be.

Well i'd like to add more but i'll only end up boring you all so i'll leave it at that :)
 
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