Olympics - Police powers

Meridian said:
Except by then it will probably be a Tory government. Hands up those who think they will have repealed any of these new "laws" by then? Or will do so at all?


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Does that excuse Labour for passing the various acts that have massively expanded police powers and reduced the rights of citizens? Or is it just a red herring?

I have my doubts that the Tories will roll back all the draconian legislation passed by labour (not least because the public have been conditioned to think it is a good idea), but that doesn't change the basic fact that the march towards a police state increased dramatically under Labour.

What we really need is ground up reform of our rights as a basis to repeal all the stupid and unnecessary laws both parties have passed over the years, but unfortunately governments don't like to give up their ability to buy the electorate with unnecessary and unworkable legislation.
 
Police will have powers to enter private homes and seize posters, and will be able to stop people carrying non-sponsor items to sporting events.
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Why do they make up this stuff. Oh and be careful about what you post here about the Olympics. You don’t know when the knock on the door will come. ;)
 
Some sporting events already do this. I know people who have had to remove t-shirts as they had large sponsor logos or have had bottles of water removed on entry as they weren't the right manufacturer. Venues who already implement this are Wembley, Olympia and Wimbledon, so it comes as no surprise.
 
Jokester said:
Presumably anyone that will be considering making a political message or demonstation during the games can expect to be harrassed by the police for a month or two.
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Not simply a demonstration, but anyone who displays a poster advertising something that isn't an official sponsor of the Olympics. So police powers are going to be used to help enforce commercialism as well.
 
mike66uk said:
Even if they made the offence that they are suggesting, an indictable offence?
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Then I would have serious reservations if waving a banner of an alternative sponsor became an indictable offence but I am quite confident that such a ridiculous notion will not come to fruition.

Or, for example, if the posters that they are describing promoted some form of hate against a certain demographic to commit an offence under Section 4 of the Public Order Act? An offence that clearly does give power of entry under Section 17.
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Section 4 being a summary only offence ( unless racially motivated ) but the aspect if it being specifically inserted into Sec 17 is not unreasonable as an exception.


Saying that, since the start of PACE 1984 and the POA 1986 police have always had this power to enter and seize posters visible in a public place that may promote violence. I don't see any issue here.
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Me neither.
 
yermum said:
Some sporting events already do this. I know people who have had to remove t-shirts as they had large sponsor logos or have had bottles of water removed on entry as they weren't the right manufacturer. Venues who already implement this are Wembley, Olympia and Wimbledon, so it comes as no surprise.
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No real issue with sporting venues doing this, I would have issue with the police being able to confiscate posters from someone's home purely due to commercial pressures.
 
Anyone got a bit more information on this legislation? Theres vague reference to it in the article but no detail, and without detail its very easy to draw sweeping and inaccurate conclusions.
 
RDM said:
No real issue with sporting venues doing this, I would have issue with the police being able to confiscate posters from someone's home purely due to commercial pressures.
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Same. Sporting venues have had plenty of rules for what you can and can't do on their property for years, probably forever. But it is their property and by buying a ticket you agree to their terms.

That's entirely different from what happens on your property (i.e. your home). In fact, you could, if you wished, impose the same rules upon people visiting your home (unless of course they have a warrant or other such reasonable grounds, but then that applies to the sporting venues as well).

Next they'll be banning photography. Oh, wait...
 
A Similar thing happened at the 2006 World Cup

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria_Brewery_(Netherlands)

At the 2006 FIFA World Cup, Bavaria Brewery caused controversy as up to 1,000 fans of the Dutch national football team donned orange overalls, called Leeuwenhosen, with the brewery's logo on them. The Leeuwenhosen, given away with the purchase of Bavaria Brewery products prior to the World Cup, was deemed illegal by FIFA in that they employed 'ambush marketing' at an event where corporate sponsors pay large sums of money to be official partners. With pre-warning from FIFA officials, staff at the game versus Ivory Coast asked fans to remove the overalls upon entrance to the game and provided orange replacement shorts without the logo
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