Ubisoft's New DRM Cracked In Under 25-Hours

DAvE18 said:
lol at ubisoft saying its not cracked. Someone has blinkers on over at ubisoft.
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That's because it's not. The crack that's out just now lets you in the game and to wander around but that's it, it bugs out if you try to start a mission, enter the animus etc due to the game being linked to their servers and content only being released to you that way while you play.

It will be cracked fully, but right now it's not and is unplayable which means most of the discussion specific to this in the thread is for nothing.
 
why do people say that this kinda stuff is stealing? it's clearly not. stealing is depriving someone of something. a download doesn't. it's not physical so you're not taking something from someone.

counter argument is you're not paying for it. ok, someone downloads sonic scenarist which costs (last time i checked) 26 grand!. if they couldn't get it, do you really think they'd get up and buy it? someone messing around with the software for non business reasons? no they wouldn't. same with other software.

in my uni, the teacher passed around copies of 3D studio max so we could work at home on our PCs instead of having to come in. made it easier for us. We wouldn't have bought the software though if we couldn't get dodgy copies of it. they never lost any money since we couldn't have bought their software anyway.

in the end, personally, piracy (not in all contexts though) is a good thing.

people ripped off movies and put em on VHS so some exec somewhere had an actual thought and released movies on VHS. we'd still be in the world of phsycial media if it wasn't for piracy. fraunhofer came out (i think it was them anyways) with a decent mp3 encoder and music was downloadable even on dial up. divx did the same for dvd and AVC allows it for blu ray.

this forces the dinosaurs to move with the times and release products that people want/. without piracy there would be no ipods, archos media players etc etc etc.

execs at RIAA/MPAA never have an original thought. it's the pirates who implement a rough version and then amazon and apple etc do a more polished version for the masses.

personally, i like my MP3 player and don't want to go back to taking a load of CDs with me on holiday with a huge bulky cd player to listen to on flights
 
tomos said:
why do people say that this kinda stuff is stealing? it's clearly not. stealing is depriving someone of something. a download doesn't. it's not physical so you're not taking something from someone.
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Can. Worms. All over floor.

I think you need to read your dictionary:

steal (stl)
v. stole (stl), sto·len (stln), steal·ing, steals
v.tr.
1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.


And you ARE depriving them of something - money.
 
tomos said:
in my uni, the teacher passed around copies of 3D studio max so we could work at home on our PCs instead of having to come in. made it easier for us. We wouldn't have bought the software though if we couldn't get dodgy copies of it. they never lost any money since we couldn't have bought their software anyway.
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Just thought i'd point out that I know for a fact that you can get 13 month student licenses with full working copies of 3ds max and other assorted autodesk software (Motion Builder, Mudbox, Maya) for personal educational use for the $99 (about £60-70) mark lol. More than affordable for most students so your reasoning is a bit flawed lol.

For instance http://www.studica.com/products/product_detail.cfm?productid=60465&gclid=CP3rkquqpKACFdkB4wodnl8Qag have a 13 month licence with full copies of the latest versions of Max 2010, Maya 2010, Mudbox SoftImage, Motion Builder and Sketchbook Pro for under the £100 mark.
 
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tomos said:
people ripped off movies and put em on VHS so some exec somewhere had an actual thought and released movies on VHS. we'd still be in the world of phsycial media if it wasn't for piracy. fraunhofer came out (i think it was them anyways) with a decent mp3 encoder and music was downloadable even on dial up. divx did the same for dvd and AVC allows it for blu ray.

this forces the dinosaurs to move with the times and release products that people want/. without piracy there would be no ipods, archos media players etc etc etc.

execs at RIAA/MPAA never have an original thought. it's the pirates who implement a rough version and then amazon and apple etc do a more polished version for the masses.
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You really don't have a clue, do you.

Why do you think VHS was in the home ? So people could watch Movies. If the movie industry hadn't been involved, you wouldn't have them in the first place - they didn't just see pirates producing some format from thin air and say "Oh, maybe we should do this as well".

Fraunhofer did invent MP3.... and then pirates constantly breached the license to produce ripped MP3s of copyright material... you do realise Fraunhofer codec isn't free, right ? You realise they're a commercial institution and their work was likely for the media industry...

Pirates have never invented anything. They take what other people invent at pretend to 'free it for everyone'. They're the most uncreative people imaginable, incapable of creating anything useful - because if they did, they'd suddenly object if it was stolen.

Piracy is never a good thing other than for the selfish people who indulge in it with the arrogant selfishness that they are entitled to whatever they want.
 
Matmulder said:
Can. Worms. All over floor.

I think you need to read your dictionary:

steal (stl)
v. stole (stl), sto·len (stln), steal·ing, steals
v.tr.
1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.


And you ARE depriving them of something - money.
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But that isnt the definition of software copy write infringement.
 
Matmulder said:
Can. Worms. All over floor.

I think you need to read your dictionary:

steal (stl)
v. stole (stl), sto·len (stln), steal·ing, steals
v.tr.
1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.


And you ARE depriving them of something - money.
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Completely wrong. Read it over and over till you understand it:

1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
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1: You're not taking anything, you're copying/cloning. In fact, it's not even you doing it but the person uploading the bits to you does it for you, you are merely requesting and accepting the data.
2: And, you're not depriving them of anything, you wouldn't have bought the game in the first place... ( in most cases)


atpbx said:
For instance, If I buy a BMW 645i, after I give BMW the money for it, I can do what ever the **** i like with it within the law of the country I use it in, I can take it on an off road track, I can blow it up, I can paint it pink, I can stick Skoda badges on it and fill it full of cornflakes, and there is nothing either company can do about it.

But If I want to buy a game from Ubisoft, I can only do what they tell me with it?
**** you Ubisoft.
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Agreed.
I've got to admit, I was never swayed by the argument that people would buy the games even if they downloaded them for free, till I tried it.
I've saved a lot of money by downloading games, not because I've kept them and played them and avoided paying, but because I've downloaded them, played them for long enough to decide whether I like it or not, then making a decision to buy it.
I've avoided forking out for some right rubbish by being able to properly try it first.
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I know, it depends on the person, and how much he/she downloads. There was a time years ago when I used to download literally every game coming out, trying out if it's any good, if it was, I ended up buying it, but, I didn't buy a single thing blindly as I didn't trust devs or the demo's of games, have been fooled before by demo's who were apparently awesome but then the full game was rubbish .
 
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Pyroblaze said:
That's because it's not. The crack that's out just now lets you in the game and to wander around but that's it, it bugs out if you try to start a mission, enter the animus etc.
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Animus were talking about Silent hunter 5 and that works just fine contrary to ubifails statement :p
 
This is all a sign people...

WE have to fight back.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didnt exist.


Heck pretty soon we wont even call it buying things anymore... we will hold licences or leases to read e-books, software, zero re-sell value because we dont own it. We only purchase the right to jump through whatever hoops the publisher/seller is dictating to us.

To get more money from us the product is divided up - sold to us piecemeal or even never sold at all...

The smarter ones...do it in little steps...heck everyone has the internet these days so its no big deal.

The even smarter ones dress it up and make people LIKE what it does.........e.g. Steam...


hooo ahhhh! (al pacino-like) its a brave new world :D
 
I can't see why the whole "you must be online to play this game and save it" thing is an issue when it only needs to available for about 6 hours anyway :p
 
if i was planning on getting ac2 for the pc then there is no way i would pay for it knowing the kind of protection they are using, id just pirate the game instead as it removes any worry of not being able to play because of having no connection

i already own the game on ps3 tho so it doesnt really bother me :)
with a bit of luck ubisoft will learn some lessons from this release and make people want to buy from them next time they release a pc game

does anyone know how well torchlight sold? that game was released with no protection atall but i still paid for it
 
torchlight was sold in the steam sales and think a fair few bought it from here but unless steam start releasing sales figures we will keep hearing pc gaming is dying.
 
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