The difference between the fuel protest of 2000 is that the price of oil was a lot lower, around 20$ a barrel yet the ppl was still reasonably high, fast forward 10 years and the price of oil has quadrupled but fuel hasn't even doubled (iirc it was around 70ppl).
Fuel tax up again 1st April
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The issue with the 2000 protest was the high level of taxation.
Taxation on fuel now is higher than at any point in the past
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It's as-if Bath is an expensive city or something
.There's an Esso 6 miles away that's 3p less than any round here
. <Does the maths working out how much it would or wouldn't save>I suppose that makes it ok then
Seriously though, when they start losing more revenue on fuel tax due to more fuel efficient cars hitting the roads, what do you think they will tax next?
Before the oil crisis of the 1970s most British cars had large V engines that guzzled fuel. Car manufacturer responded to this and started to produce small engine "economy" cars, many of them coming from Japan eg Datsun, Toyota et al. The Geneva motor show this year show that they are responding in the same way again.
Car ownership isn't decreasing, even if vehicles were a 1/3 more efficent I expect the loss there will be made up by another car on the road. So any government will have a guaranteed income especially after extra VED and any other associated/indirect taxes.
Why do they need extra income, why not cut wasteful spending instead
It's as-if Bath is an expensive city or something
There's an Esso 6 miles away that's 3p less than any round here
The Esso on London road is cheap at the moment.
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My wife and I are bothered TBH. We both earn well, but that doesn't mean we're happy to pay the insane prices for fuel.
As you mentioned earlier though, nothing really can be done, we grumble but still pay, there's no real alternative. The UK is bankrupt, the Government need cash desperately, and tax on fuel is an easy win for them.
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Because you will get arrested and have a criminal record. If its all the same to you i'd rather not......
Yeah, they could just divert that £4bn from the "wasteful spending" budget to something else.
Meh, performance cars rarely make financial sense, but then you don't buy one for it's MPGZ and cheap insurance/tax, you buy one because they're awesome
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We spend 150bn a year on welfare, a large chunk of that probably goes to chavs with 7 kids and so on
The MOD wastes plenty of money on things when buying something new, and ready made is better
All these government quangos waste money
Being a net contributor to EU is wasting money
Paying 64mil for carbon credits for parliament is wasting money
Giving aid to random countries is wasting money
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You're being vague, which implies that you don't know what you're on about, but are professing to know the answer.
Welfare might need overhauling, but it needs to be a little better than sweeping statements. A system needs to be created that caters for every situation, fairly and equally, but can't be 'played' as it is now. It also needs to be value for money - in fact it needs to be better value for money than it is now, which is difficult considering the investment it would take to overhaul the system. Rash headlines about wasting money are just around the corner, whichever way you go.
The MOD does seem to be woefully inadequate at things, but when you consider that they have to do what they've always done, and more, on a fraction of the budget and manpower, it's not hard to see why projects fail.
We're hardly giving random countries aid, are we. Whether you look at it from a humanitarian point of view or a diplomatic one- there's no way we could just refuse aid to a country devastated by a natural disaster.
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