I am going to test 3x OCed 275's vs 3x OCed 280's on my new i7 build, but...

[rhys216]

8gig in my rig, looking @ getting 24gb when prices come down a bit...

 

[Mpyra]

Mpyra, you have to have one of the most backward ways of evaluation PC hardware performance.

Firstly, why do you seem to be refusing to use 64 bit windows?

What program compatibilities are you talking about exactly? All the software I have works on both 64 and 32bit.

It's rare to find something that doesn't work on 64 bit, very rare actually.

As for RAM, I'm not sure how you can call it a scam.

I know it's dependent on what you do with your PC, but I find anything under 8GB horrible to use.

All these extra bits of performance you're trying to squeeze out for the money are so small that I don't think you'll see a benefit equal to the amount of time effort and thought you're putting in to it.

When exactly did i describe RAM as being a scam? lol

I just don't see 64-bit as necessary, i even just performed a fresh install of windows 7 today because my mouse drivers got completely screwed and no matter what i did it took 1 meter of mouse movement for an inch of screen movement and i use a 42 inch LCD lol.

I'm also going to be performing another fresh install on a hard drive i'm getting as an advance on an RMA from Western Digital.

The on program that i am really concerned about compatibility with is Pro Tools 8, because it simply is not compatible the last time i checked.

It's fairly apparent by all observable scores that more than 3 GB RAM has no significant effect on gaming.

I would not be performing any other ram intensive activities on my computer, if you need 8 GB for whatever your doing, I'm not stopping you or suggesting you need any less.

I wouldn't count this as work, it hasn't taken particularly long and it's been quite interesting, it's good to catch up on how PC hardware is progressing from time to time.

Why are you are saying my method of evaluating PC performance is backwards, what's wrong with it?

Anyway i am totally done now, but still curious about what ram timings are and how exactly they relate to CAS latencies, does anyone know?

 

[cmndr_andi]

You did describe RAM as all hype - which I wouldn't personally agree with. I find I make good use of the 6GB in my system with many applications, browser tabs and videos running concurrently, also in many non-crysis games RAM can be very heavily used.

You clearly have Windows 7 as you said you just installed it, is this a retail version with the option of both 32 and 64 bit versions or it is a 32bit OEM version? If it is 32bit OEM, that would explain your reticence to upgrade to 64bit and more RAM.

What is your mouse model?

As for pro tools, the news seems good (from their site):

Q: Windows 7 provides a 64-bit version. Will the Pro Tools 8.0.3 Windows 7 public beta work with this 64-bit operating system?
A: Yes, we are not aware of any issues running the Pro Tools Windows 7 public beta with Windows 7 64-bit. Of course, the 32-bit version can also be used.

Q: Is Pro Tools 8.0.3 a 64-bit application?
A: Pro Tools 8.0.3 is a 32-bit application. We are investigating 64-bit support and have no release plans to share at this time.

AFAIK timing and latencies refer to the same thing [1].

 

[Strife212]

I haven't read the thread but it can be summed up by saying if you're running tri sli on 32bit you're a fool.

And 3GB of RAM, lol, this PC will be useless.

 

[kylew]

IIRC tho you do quite a lot of fairly high end 3D, etc. stuff tho, if your rendering and have a few related programs on the go thats automatically 2+gig that other people aren't likely to be using.

IMO for normal desktop use and some gaming 4gig is fine, 3gig maybe a little tight but useable.

While that's true, (On average I'm using around 60-80% of my 8GB of RAM), I feel the difference even in light usages, though I do have a habit of having a lot of firefox tabs open.

When Windows 7 Beta (7100 I think) first surfaced, the one with the first default superbar, the only available version was 32 bit.

That was a painful experience, coming from 64bit with 8GB to 32 bit with only 4GB usable.

I also attribute my RAM usage to getting a second monitor.

I've just got a third this weekend so I'm expecting 8GB to feel crap soon.

(before anyone says, more monitors promotes multitasking which is where the extra RAM usage will come from, not the simple act of having a third plugged in).

 

[Strawberry]

Or you could get 8 GB of ram and run WinXP 32bit on a virtual machine for your Pro Tools 8 thingy and still have 6+ GB left for games.

While that's true, (On average I'm using around 60-80% of my 8GB of RAM), I feel the difference even in light usages, though I do have a habit of having a lot of firefox tabs open.

Superfetching?

Ps. Note that newer games like MW2 have over 10 GB of content. I can only imagine that performance will improve if the OS can cache all those textures.

Pps. If you have 8 GB of RAM you can make a 5.6 GB sized ramdisk and put Crysis on it, while still having 2.4 GB ram left. (Or you could get 6x2GB and have 6+ GB usable ram left)

Ppps. Ramdisks are faster than SSDs.

Pppps. Imagine how fast Crysis would load.

 

[Kharbyne]

Results?

 

[Martini1991]

This thread seems kind of pointless.
Why go for GTX 280's over 5850's?

 

[rhys216]

^^^
It's FAIL from the very beginning...
Wouldn't want to be in Op's shoes!

Looks like he's only running 1080P could have just got 1 5850/70 and been done with it, simples...

No he's got all the problems with multi GPU setups for Zero tangible benefit.

 

[Martini1991]

At 1920x1080 a single GPU's plenty fine.
A 5870 would do most people at 5760x1080 (No AA of course).
My mate uses a 4870x2, he'll max any game at 1920x1080, they can be had for like 150 quid now.

 

[Mpyra]

You did describe RAM as all hype - which I wouldn't personally agree with. I find I make good use of the 6GB in my system with many applications, browser tabs and videos running concurrently, also in many non-crysis games RAM can be very heavily used.

You clearly have Windows 7 as you said you just installed it, is this a retail version with the option of both 32 and 64 bit versions or it is a 32bit OEM version? If it is 32bit OEM, that would explain your reticence to upgrade to 64bit and more RAM.

What is your mouse model?

As for pro tools, the news seems good (from their site):



AFAIK timing and latencies refer to the same thing [1].

I have the retail home premium version of Windows 7 which includes both 32 and 64-bit.

Thank you for the Protools link, surely one less reason not to switch to 64 - bit.

I'm going to test 64-bit 6 GB vs 32-bit 3 GB, but they will be on different hard drive, if there is no difference in Crysis Warhead benchmarking results then i will return the 6 GB of RAM and stick with 32-bit.

I am assuming that i can still use a drive with Windows 7 64 for storage, correct?

My mouse is a Razer Lachesis i just purchased to make playing Crysis easier.

It has 7 buttons, 2 on either side, the 2 primary mouse buttons, an additional 2 below the mouse wheel, the mouse wheel itself being the 7th button with the addition of scrolling.

I have been having some trouble getting Crysis to recognize the two buttons on the right hand side of the mouse.

In the configurator program, i setup these buttons (6 and 7) to respond as keyboard numbers 6 and 7, this works in windows, pressing them types these numbers.

It also works in Unreal Tournament 3, i can assign functions to these buttons.

However, when i try to assign functions to these buttons in Crysis Warhead, nothing happens it does not recognize that i have inputted a key for the function to be assigned to.

I know that the Lachesis should work in Crysis as it was a player online in Crysis Wars that recommended it to me.