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Fermi Prices?

jigger said:
Yeah ignore the percentages I balls'd them up, Nvidia are meant to be getting 20 working gtx480's from every 1000 wafers is what I should have said. Ive also just read TSMC could be at 20,000 a month now, so ignore 60 a month too.
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The numbers are simply wrong I'm afraid, 2% yield was where it was on A1, literally getting only 7-8 samples across 3-4 wafers they sent for tape out. Its supposed to be higher, but still single digit, so around 8-9% gives them around 10 per wafer, not every 1000 wafers.

They supposedly put through 9k wafers as hot lots so should have around 9k wafers capable of providing 10 or so cores per wafer, thats 90k cores working at one speed or another. I reckon, judging by the times its taken, they've spent a LONG LONG time testing those wafers insanely carefully to get every last working core out and I reckon we'll see insanely limited numbers on the 480gtx limited numbers of 470gtx's, and after a couple weeks a number of 460gtx's, which will likely be even slower with less SP's, and frankly will be hard pushed to beat a 285gtx.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
Selling 5million at £600 would be impossible, selling 250k would be easy, very easy, I can't see why Nvidia would bother selling them that cheap if they do only do a very limited run.
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They are trying to kill AMD's sales with cheap tricks and future promises of stock... That's all they have to fight with as the number of cards available won't even be a drop in the ocean.
 
Don't forget the tesla/professional parts - they are going to want some cores for that - and they make much better returns for nVidia.
 
This is really turning into a nightmare for NV. I reckon £500 for a GTX480 and availability of 10k units may be the reality. They will sell them, and quickly, but that will be it for a while....
 
Lightnix said:
Allegedly the 26th, or at least that's when we'll see some (Nvidia censored) reviews.
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Fixed. It'll be a little longer I guess before there will be some non-NDA reviews out there, unless Anandtech pull out another trick like they did with the GTS250 reviews.
 
Gouging will be astronomical on the 480s... as people have already mentioned the contributing factors, I'll just say I expect it to be at least £100 extra on launch day. :eek:
 
drunkenmaster said:
The numbers are simply wrong I'm afraid, 2% yield was where it was on A1, literally getting only 7-8 samples across 3-4 wafers they sent for tape out. Its supposed to be higher, but still single digit, so around 8-9% gives them around 10 per wafer, not every 1000 wafers.

They supposedly put through 9k wafers as hot lots so should have around 9k wafers capable of providing 10 or so cores per wafer, thats 90k cores working at one speed or another. I reckon, judging by the times its taken, they've spent a LONG LONG time testing those wafers insanely carefully to get every last working core out and I reckon we'll see insanely limited numbers on the 480gtx limited numbers of 470gtx's, and after a couple weeks a number of 460gtx's, which will likely be even slower with less SP's, and frankly will be hard pushed to beat a 285gtx.
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The numbers are correct but I think I could have interpreted them wrong. After reading the info again it seems the "highest graded" cores, could be the cores considered to be native Fermi/tesla standards and not high end geforce parts.
 
I've seen $679 touted as a possible list price for the gtx480

That means it will be £447 plus VAT = £525.

Good job we are getting more than $1.5 to the pound again.

Through in short supply and gouging and I can see these being £600 at launch and they will still sell out of them.

Even if the fud prices are right, that is still £430 plus VAT = £505.
 
i really hope prices are not too high. personally i'm more interested in the 470 as its cheaper and will do just fine for me.

right now i'm considering a 5850. if its maybe close to a 5870 its "ok" but if a 470 exceeds that price, its a fail for nvidia.

PS: i'm an Nvidia fan boy but i care more for my pocket/money than for nvidia. sry
 
It is quite natural that the most famous and yet delayed chip called Fermi won’t be cheap but it turns out that it won't be that expensive either.


People have expected single GPU Geforce GTX 480 to end up at close to $600 or €600 in Europe after tax but it turns out that the amount Nvidia wants for its new high end card should be closer to €450.

Note that high demand might easily make shops push this price even further but Nvidia's suggested retail price should end up around €450 including VAT. Higher prices will be reserved for some dual card that is supposed to come in the next few months.

Since most available Radeon 5870 cards are selling at €375 and higher, we believe that Nvidia's price is quite OK, and some partners have told us that Nvidia might have plenty of cards to launch on the 27th
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AKA

People have expected single GPU Geforce GTX 480 to end up at close to $600 or €600 (£545) in Europe after tax but it turns out that the amount Nvidia wants for its new high end card should be closer to €450 (£410).

euro vs pound rate sux
 
Blackbadger said:
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The price of a gtx480 is 600 dollars and 600 euros as you can order one at that price. Someone is going to have to explain trolling to me.

Nvidia cant say a pre order is a scam, company's have taken pre orders on Nvidia products for years. UK retailer will have them up soon.
 
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