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Free on the NHS?
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Because despite all the loony left propaganda that's been shoved down our throats, it's not OK to encourage vulnerable women and girls to have their unborn children murdered. I seriously think that history will judge this society as barbaric because of this, the same way we view the Romans today.
.... and your point was:
In GD terms that means an awful lot.
Yeah yeah, except its pretty obvious to everyone exactly what all three posters were highlighting.
Who views ancient Roman society as barbaric?
No, not all circumstance and I wouldn't like to see it banned either because the consequences could well be worse. I would just like to see it discouraged in this country, and I certainly don't want this country to become an abortion tourist destination.
Sounds reasonable enough to me.
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Yes, people from Ireland have been doing it for 50 years since the establishment of the NHS.
Anyone who has read about Roman society
Oh how easy it is to come out with throw away comments like such huh?
Its all very well looking back at historical societies and attributing modern day morals to them but it doesn't make it correct, although I suspect this is something not mentioned in your history books.
I certainly don't agree with you, and history has always been my passion.
I still fail to see how they are more barbaric than 'barbarian' nations of the time, direct comparison to modern day world is not exacly apt is it. Depends what your point on this is really.
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Because destroying a bunch of cells without any knowledge of it's existance, or even a brain is immoral?
I think putting animals down for broken legs, or even because they aren't wanted is far more immoral...
can - of - worms
But that's my opinion on the matter.
We seem to have way to high an opinion of ourselves as a species where it's apparently less moral to allow one bunch of cells that couldn't actually live at the time of abortion (or think, or do pretty much anything for that matter, does it even pump blood round it's own body?) to be destroyed than destroy other animals on a whim, because no one wants them, or they are just in the way. To destroy whole tracts of rainforest and the millions of creatures in them just so we can spread even more as we can't keep it in our pants...
(And yeah, i'm in a ****** mood at the moment...)
Quite right, indeed we can see a large number of people in this thread who are prepared to tolerate abortion, dismissing unborn babies as "a few cells" etc - this seems perfectly moral to them, however my contention is that future generations will be abhorred by the scale of this practice.
As far as I'm aware, barbarism isn't defined as being relative to other civilisations at the time. I think the punishments used by the Romans were barbaric - crucifixion, flaying as well as gladiatorial combat and use of slaves. That said, they can be praised for advancements in science and engineering, as well as art and poetry. I suspect that similar will be said of the western civilisation in another 2000 years.
So go backwards then? The whole idea of society is to alway go forward, from what I understand... Making abortion "illegal" again would be going back to the victorian era....
As for a few cells, what are they then? In the UK you can't have an abortion when the cells have actually taken the form of a baby...
I don't think scale of practise will come into it at all, its either morally wrong or not as a concept. The numbers do not detract or add to this.
You may very well be right, but that is also making assumptions on a future society that neither of us can really make.
You may feel that society will 'outgrow' abortions, but it could easily be the case that it doesn't.
No, of course it isn't.
I mean, its not as if the Romans didn't deride other civilizations and primative societies as barbaric at the time did they? "Barbarian is a term for an uncivilized person, often used pejoratively, either in a general reference to a member of a nation or ethnos, typically a tribal society as seen by an urban civilization either viewed as inferior, or admired as a noble savage. In idiomatic or figurative usage, a "barbarian" may also be an individual reference to a brutal, cruel, warlike, insensitive person.[1]" =- wiki.
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Such as an increase in backstreet abortions? Like the posters from moral Poland are trying to discourage women from having?