Complete change of heart - new priorities, new spec me

Thereabouts, maybe a bit more, maybe a lot more if the BMW throws a big bill

Every car on the planet has the potential to throw a big bill.

If you're so stretched that your car developing a fault can effect your lifestyle as greatly as you claim it will maybe you should consider buying something much cheaper?
 
It is then odd to here you say that a S40 is likely to be less refined and comfortable than his Mondeo because it shares the platform with the Focus. Surely the platform sharing has nothing to do with anything?

In this case the S40 is pretty damn similar to a focus, except depending on the model the S40 is a bit softer. But it drives quite differently to a mondeo, IMO, worse.
 
Thereabouts, maybe a bit more, maybe a lot more if the BMW throws a big bill

Assuming it doesn't throw a big bill though, what is your breakdown of the difference? Is it just service costs you are comparing for your extra £500 a year figure?
 
Every car on the planet has the potential to throw a big bill.

If you're so stretched that your car developing a fault can effect your lifestyle as greatly as you claim it will maybe you should consider buying something much cheaper?

Absolutely, it's a gamble but the odds are better with different cars. As above, I'd want to keep a grand to one side if I had the BMW, partly because it would be older and partly because of the potential extra cost of getting it sorted. The Mondeo is quite a low risk at the moment, but that's going to start increasing. A petrol accord is going to be a minimal risk.

I'm not stretched, not even remotely, I just dont want to spend my money on fixing a car when I can be doing much more interesting things with it

Assuming it doesn't throw a big bill though, what is your breakdown of the difference? Is it just service costs you are comparing for your extra £500 a year figure?

Insurance is about £200 more expensive, tax is another £100, fuel and servicing will easily account for the rest
 
iaind - you're fighting a losing battle here. You're suggesting moving from a Mondeo and not moving to a BMW. Even if there were fantastic well articulated reasons for doing so, you'd have a hard job picking up the one or two posts answering the questions you ask in between the other 50 answering the questions they want to answer.

If you want a change, even if it doesn't appear to make sense, have a change. Drive the cars you're interested in and see how you find them. We're only talking a difference of a few thousand here, which whilst it can be a lot to many, isn't I suspect going to change your life if you make a bad decision.
 
Am I right in thinking your Mondeo has had the usual diesel faults already? If so you're just looking at general Mondeo faults which aren't all that expensive unless your steering rack develops problems.
 
iaind - you're fighting a losing battle here. You're suggesting moving from a Mondeo and not moving to a BMW. Even if there were fantastic well articulated reasons for doing so, you'd have a hard job picking up the one or two posts answering the questions you ask in between the other 50 answering the questions they want to answer.

I absolutely don't think this is the case at all.
 
Am I right in thinking your Mondeo has had the usual diesel faults already? If so you're just looking at general Mondeo faults which aren't all that expensive unless your steering rack develops problems.

It's had DMF failure but no problems with the injectors/fuel system at all. It's started to be a bit lumpy at idle on cold mornings but I dont think thats anything to worry about. Will have the rear subframe problem in the forseeable future (service showed they were "delaminating").


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I absolutely don't think this is the case at all.

In fairness I was previously looking at a fairly significant upgrade, which happened to be a BMW and most of the forum understandably approved.

I'm not looking at a smaller upgrade for less money and I've been slated, so I can see why it would appear that way
 
I think the reason you've been 'slated' (Not sure I'd see it that way) is that many cannot really see what you are doing as an upgrade, more a sideways step.
 
[TW]Fox;16164047 said:
I think the reason you've been 'slated' (Not sure I'd see it that way) is that many cannot really see what you are doing as an upgrade, more a sideways step.

You don't have to upgrade every time. Not everyone is going to end up with an M5 in 15 years time, nor wants to.

I'll repeat what I suggested above:

If you want a change, even if it doesn't appear to make sense, have a change. Drive the cars you're interested in and see how you find them. We're only talking a difference of a few thousand here, which whilst it can be a lot to many, isn't I suspect going to change your life if you make a bad decision.
 
[TW]Fox;16164047 said:
I think the reason you've been 'slated' (Not sure I'd see it that way) is that many cannot really see what you are doing as an upgrade, more a sideways step.

Slated was probably a bit strong, I can understand most of the points made, but I dont see how it wouldnt be an upgrade. Not as much of an upgrade, but still better in almost every way so an upgrade nonetheless
 
Havent dont an insurance quote on the T5, but comparing the 330ci to my current favourite - a 2.4 Accord

Sorry, i can't keep up. I thought your favourite was the T5?

EDIT: ok, just read it's a "toss up" between the T5 and Accord atm.
 
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Slated was probably a bit strong, I can understand most of the points made, but I dont see how it wouldnt be an upgrade. Not as much of an upgrade, but still better in almost every way so an upgrade nonetheless

I don't see how an Accord would be an upgrade. The 2002-2009 Accord is the same generation of car as the 2000-2007 Mondeo - the Mondeo just happened to be first to market. Various group tests are around pitching them all together, and more often than not the Mondeo came out on top anyway - whether you agree with them or not the one thing you can say is that they are simply two sides of the same coin - mass market family saloons. Both good but...

....both aimed at the same market at the same time.

All a 2.4 Accord is going to be is a Honda petrol version of your Mondeo Zetec-S. It is absolutely a sideways step, I cannot see how it can be considered an upgrade.
 
You don't have to upgrade every time.

So why bother unless you buy something demonstratably newer? I mean I'd understand why a normal person might upgrade from a 2004 Mondeo to a 2008 Mondeo or perhaps a 2009 Insignia but... a sideways step?

Whats the point? What does it acheive?
 
Sorry, i can't keep up. I thought your favourite was the T5?

Currently the T5 is a close second

[TW]Fox;16164093 said:
I don't see how an Accord would be an upgrade. The 2002-2009 Accord is the same generation of car as the 2000-2007 Mondeo - the Mondeo just happened to be first to market. Various group tests are around pitching them all together, and more often than not the Mondeo came out on top anyway - whether you agree with them or not the one thing you can say is that they are simply two sides of the same coin - mass market family saloons. Both good but...

....both aimed at the same market at the same time.

All a 2.4 Accord is going to be is a Honda petrol version of your Mondeo Zetec-S. It is absolutely a sideways step, I cannot see how it can be considered an upgrade.

The Accord would be better equipped and offers better performance though.

It would be like upgrading from a 2004 Zetec-S TDCI to a 2006 Titanium 2.5 V6.....still an upgrade IMO
 
Better equipped in what respect - what is missing that is worth a several thousand pound upgrade path to you?

All I can think is leather seats.
 
It seems to me that you are wanting to change cars more because you are simply tired of driving a Mondeo, which you may have already said. So in that regard a sideways step to a similar running cost car is perfectly fine. Sounds like you just need to test drive the cars on your list to see if it looks like the itch will be sufficiently scratched. By the way, my rear subframe bushes only cost about £200 to repair, and they were proper knackered.
 
why run the risk of buying something of that age that could have a load of problems (hence its sale), when yours is fine?

I wouldn't bother changing unless it was for something better as per your previous spec me threads.
 
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