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GTX480 - Massive Availability April 6th

All it says is "full stride" i.e. when they have a full product range from top to bottom... gotta love the haters trying to beat as much bad news as possible out of everything :D
 
Those performance figures were taken from a tesla configuration card that was an approximation of the then "GTX360" - and even then it wasn't running the target spec number of SPs, etc. but running more SPs at a lower clock rate. So it doesn't really give that good an indication as to the final GTX470 and 480 parts.

Tho it does give a good indication of the quality of the architecture - with a good quality process hitting full SPs and good clocks in the FC2 benchmark a GF100 would walk all over a 5970.
 
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All it says is "full stride" i.e. when they have a full product range from top to bottom... gotta love the haters trying to beat as much bad news as possible out of everything :D

I think for many people it is simply that they are enjoying watching nVidia having troubles because of their dodgy dealings in the past. Personally I find it all rather amusing that they have had such issues... but it isn't a good thing with regards to competition on the GPU front, I would rather they were doing better with regards to that.
 
I don't get the hating personally... sure I don't like nVidia much and dislike ATI even more but I don't feel the need to spend every possible opportunity putting the knife into them. I think your right they got screwed over.
 
I just want real benchmarks before i buy one tbh i dont care what price ( even if its £50 off performance to the £)
 
I wonder if Nvidia will make any money on a chip that's expected to retail for £299 given all the issues around the die size and low yields?

For me, having the card available to buy at £299 is all I would worry about, the last thing on my mind would be wither nvidia are making money on it. I dont care wither they are having problems, what their yeilds are like or their die size. Frankly for me, commenting on a companies manufacturing process is pretty head scratching, its like a share holders meeting sometimes. :D
 
I'm not going to confirm or deny any issues, etc. with these cards... but... 9/10 times this information about all the issues with them originates from the same bias source(s) and jumped on as fact and played out by all the haters for every penny its worth.
While this is largely true (though not entirely), that doesn't change the fact that:
- A lot of the information is perfectly logical and supported by related information (45nm process problems for instance that we know a fair bit about)
- The only positive information ever released has come straight from nVidia, and is highly questionable.

At any rate, we'll see given time. It's quite an entertaining story to follow either way.
 
While this is largely true (though not entirely), that doesn't change the fact that:
- A lot of the information is perfectly logical and supported by related information (45nm process problems for instance that we know a fair bit about)
- The only positive information ever released has come straight from nVidia, and is highly questionable.

At any rate, we'll see given time. It's quite an entertaining story to follow either way.

Yes a lot of the information is logical - but (especially true for one of the sources) they only ever show one side of the coin and attempt to gloss over the other just as potentially valid side. Only showing the side of the story that suits their agenda. So they can always fall back on the time old "but show me where I was actually wrong".
 
Heh, Is that not just what he has said in the half full/half empty scenario !

Thats not what he's saying though. He's saying people should be more optimistic about Fermi.

I'm personaly struggling to be optimistic considering the weight of evidence against the card is still mounting and Nvidia's CEO said the current card is basicly b0rked beyond a rework and a complete redesigned from the ground up is needed to fix the bugs. Maybe that's just me reading too much into it though...
 
I can relate to that, everything negative I have read has stemmed from notveryaccurate.com

With those comments you need to back up you're facts as this notveryaccurate.com site has been the only site that seems to have got things pretty much accurate about fermi. Fudzilla is regarded more on the nv side of things and has gotten all things wrong when it comes to fermi is this because nvidia have been telling them what to say where as notveryaccurate.com seem to have been on the money for the most part because they care little about what nvidia says and want to get to the truth with a little bit of hate from charlie on the side.
 
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I'm not going to confirm or deny any issues, etc. with these cards... but... 9/10 times this information about all the issues with them originates from the same bias source(s) and jumped on as fact and played out by all the haters for every penny its worth.
I can relate to that, everything negative I have read has stemmed from notveryaccurate.com

Fair enough, but as someone who has just stepped into the tech game, surely you must agree nvidia have done themselves no favours.

Also any card at launch has to deliver a performance increase. Nvidia's promise was that Fermi would be a new breed. I think the 5000 series really caught them off guard I think it may even have caught ati off guard as well :-P

Just a though but fermi clearly hasn't gone completely to plan, I don't doubt they will be 15% faster at launch, but bear in mind nvidia <have> to beat the 5870 in a straight line, not doing so would be a disaster.

My impression is that fermi did not turn out as fast as expected and as such these cards will be clocked far closer to their limits than the ati cards at launch, and this is likely to mean higher power usage and more heat.

However the minimum frame rates I have been seeing may just be the cards savior- these are the real mark of how well a card performs and thus far they seem to be good; time will tell.

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