Asus 5850 Tweak settings Ati Overdrive

Slipperz · 20 Mar 2010 at 07:35

Guys,

Just a heads up on any of you that can share the settings for me??

I heard that it can be oc'ed to speeds of the 5870??

Do you use the ATi overdrive utility or something else?

Thanks

Slipperz

freddie64 · 20 Mar 2010 at 07:57

Think people are using MSI Afterburner to clock their 5850 cards.

Not used it myself, but am sure someone will be along soon to help you out.

lukext · 20 Mar 2010 at 08:52

Yeh, got my asus 5850 using Msi A/B to 850 core 1150 memory using 1.1 volts (1.087 was my stock volts). Also, set up a custom fan profile using afterburner, the higher the clock, the more aggresive the fan setting to keep the card cool. Use Gpuz to keep an eye on core temps and VDDC (voltage regulator) temps! Not sure what temps are healthy exactly, but I dont like to see 80degC or above.

Ps. I have got higher, up to 950 core but that needed a small voltage bump again. I dont need that sort of power, all the games i run are maxed out so 850/1150 was enough for me.

Ripshod · 20 Mar 2010 at 09:19

To start use CCC Auto Tune. That will give a good idea of performance at stock volts. Then play with MSI Afterburner.

IT Troll · 20 Mar 2010 at 10:06

Ripshod said:
To start use CCC Auto Tune. That will give a good idea of performance at stock volts. Then play with MSI Afterburner.

No don't. Auto Tune is a joke. I ran it on my Asus which took a couple of hours (testing each increase along the way). In the end it claimed my card was stable up to the slider maximums of 1200/1400 on stock volts! Yeah right...

Pretty much all 5850s will do 825/1150 on stock volts. Some will even do 5870 speeds 850/1200 on stock. Above that you will need to increase the voltage a little in which case most will do 900+.

Slipperz · 20 Mar 2010 at 11:02

I just tried the Auto tune and it just sat there for ages with vertical parallel colured lines?

I think I will give that one a miss!!

lukext · 20 Mar 2010 at 12:20

yeh thats its way of stress testing...

I prefer furmark. Furmark does put massive stress that never normally occurs though so dont just jump to a setting with a random voltage. Do it methodically. 10MHz intervals on stock till you start to see artifacts, then start upping the volts but small amounts till its stable etc etc. Have GPUz running to record temps

liamcrane · 20 Mar 2010 at 14:45

what is the stock voltage of a 5850? and what would be the max voltage to push it to? i take it when you use ati overdrive to autotune it does it on stock volts as there is now volt changer in ccc

Shetlander · 20 Mar 2010 at 18:52

Stock voltage is 1.087v.
Ive been testing mine all day using Heaven and multiple loops of the crysis benchmark. So far im up to 840 core with 1.125v. My memory is only good upto 1145mhz. I have had my card running 980/1135 before the new drivers came out (10.3a) but theyve made such an improvement I decided to start from stock and see how far I could get on default. It managed 820 core and 1120mhz memory.
Im using MSI Afterburner only to overclock. If you do that then I would advise you go into the cfg file and change "enable unofficial overclocking" tp 1 and then set 2 profiles in afterburner. one for 2d and one for 3d.
Im hoping to get to 850 core and then Ill probably run it at that 24/7 as thats a large drop in volts than for 980 which I needed 1.274v to get.

liamcrane · 20 Mar 2010 at 19:13

thats good mate, wats the most you could push a 5850 on stock volts? what do you mean by editing the cfg file for afterburner to allow 2d and 3d settings? When i look in ccc my 5850 when im browsing drops to like 157mhz core & 300mhz memory, but just to mention i have not overclocked mine.

el Kuarlos · 20 Mar 2010 at 19:53

Mine seems stable at 5870 settings on stock volts, (850, 1200).

Also stable at stock settings@1 volt. Not worth using in my opinion though as the temp reduction is minimal.

Only issue I have had was when I was thick enough to try 1000 at stock volts; went into game, instant freeze and froze when I rebooted. Given I only have a single card this could have been a problem; couldn't get at the settings whilst in safe mode either, fortunately it actually managed to boot up with those settings second time and I changed it back.

Basically my opinion is this card is an utter beast when it comes to overclocking, only reason I am hanging about round 5870 settings is the noise the fan generates when it is running hotter. Not bothering adding extra volts as right now the thing is just plain fast enough as is.

<EDIT> having a big ol gaming sesh tonight, so going to see if 900 1200 will fly at stock on this card; I know that it will not on most and probably wont on mine, but lets see

Answer= no go, but, it doesn't seem far off; Half an hour into Napoleon on full settings, it froze,

Shetlander · 20 Mar 2010 at 20:39

liamcrane said:
thats good mate, wats the most you could push a 5850 on stock volts? what do you mean by editing the cfg file for afterburner to allow 2d and 3d settings? When i look in ccc my 5850 when im browsing drops to like 157mhz core & 300mhz memory, but just to mention i have not overclocked mine.

On stock volts it went to 820 core & 1110 mem.
If you card is dropping to 157/300 then something is overclocked somewhere. I believe the normal low setting is 400/1000. Also, do you have 2 monitors.
The cfg file is to do with MSI Afterburner settings. By changing the "enable unofficial overclocking" it stops powerplay dropping the core/mem to 157/300 which if you are running 2 monitors causes flickering when upping and dropping clocks.
I have enabled 2 profiles in Afterburner, one for the 2d settings, 600/1000 at 1v and currently 850/1135 @ 1.125v. Temps for me are not an issue as its watercooled with a full cover EK block.
Being an Asus card the only program youll need to overclock it is MSI Afterburner which if you download comes with MSI Kombustor which is basically Furmark but instead of a moldy donut you get a cool blue furry MSI .
If you need any help or have more questions Ill be happy to share what ive learnt so far with this card.

a lot of people think there card is stable at high clocks and some possibly are but tests such as furmark are deceptive because if the memory is clocked 2 high you dont get artifacts or anything as the card just resends the commands. The only way to test this is to run benchmarks and compare framerates.
I have been using 3dMark vantage and I could tell on the opening Jane Nash scene if my core didnt have enough volts as the water became un natural with abnormal peaks.

schnipps · 20 Mar 2010 at 20:54

msi afterburner confuses me totally

i have it setup with 2 profiles one 2d one 3d, but the 2d one keeps the same voltage as the 3d one, i can never tell if its running or not unless i open it and visually check, it seems to mix the settings up.

Shetlander · 20 Mar 2010 at 23:00

schnipps said:
msi afterburner confuses me totally

i have it setup with 2 profiles one 2d one 3d, but the 2d one keeps the same voltage as the 3d one, i can never tell if its running or not unless i open it and visually check, it seems to mix the settings up.

You have to remember to press "apply" before you save to one of the profiles. Then if you want it to start on the lower profile when windows starts, select the profile number and then click on the apply at startup.
Are you using the latest version 1.5.1 ?
I am using 2 monitors and have detached the monitor from the main control so when Afterburner starts it automatically opens on my second monitor.

liamcrane · 20 Mar 2010 at 23:21

Shetlander said:
On stock volts it went to 820 core & 1110 mem.
If you card is dropping to 157/300 then something is overclocked somewhere. I believe the normal low setting is 400/1000. Also, do you have 2 monitors.
The cfg file is to do with MSI Afterburner settings. By changing the "enable unofficial overclocking" it stops powerplay dropping the core/mem to 157/300 which if you are running 2 monitors causes flickering when upping and dropping clocks.
I have enabled 2 profiles in Afterburner, one for the 2d settings, 600/1000 at 1v and currently 850/1135 @ 1.125v. Temps for me are not an issue as its watercooled with a full cover EK block.
Being an Asus card the only program youll need to overclock it is MSI Afterburner which if you download comes with MSI Kombustor which is basically Furmark but instead of a moldy donut you get a cool blue furry MSI .
If you need any help or have more questions Ill be happy to share what ive learnt so far with this card.

a lot of people think there card is stable at high clocks and some possibly are but tests such as furmark are deceptive because if the memory is clocked 2 high you dont get artifacts or anything as the card just resends the commands. The only way to test this is to run benchmarks and compare framerates.
I have been using 3dMark vantage and I could tell on the opening Jane Nash scene if my core didnt have enough volts as the water became un natural with abnormal peaks.

Thanks for that mate, as for some of your questions my card is not OC at all, and i am using one 20" monitor. I thought these cards by default dropped to 157/300 when at idle. I am interested to know how you have set up your fan speeds? I have set mine up in afterburner like this, 20c-45c fan speed 25%
45c-55c fan speed 35% 55c-60c fan speed 40% 60c+ fan speed 50%

The problem with this is when you set up your own fan profile in MSI it automaticlly ticks the enable manual fan control option in ccc so sometimes the fan will change to what ever its set to in ccc regardless of the fan profile created in MSI dam annoying!

el Kuarlos · 21 Mar 2010 at 01:33

I thought these cards by default dropped to 157/300 when at idle.

Mine does.

Had that gaming session, 850 core, 1100 memory seem best at stock, going to 1200 memory affects temps a fair bit. Using the standard fan profile, CCC to clock it.

As a side note I have left my fan at stock, but have used a spotcool to hit the back of my card, mounted it in a hole drilled in my antec 300, brings air through the side vent right onto the business part of the card, I would recommend it to anyone who doesn't want to tinker with aftermarket coolers- shaves a decent chunk of temps and stops my processor heating up as much when the card starts getting hot.

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liamcrane · 21 Mar 2010 at 08:41

Cool mate nice case! dont you find the stock fan profile to slow? when left on auto the fan never seems to go above 30%, i know the fan does get kinda loud but if you pump up the sound of your game you cant hear it and you do have cooler temps

Nick08 · 21 Mar 2010 at 09:07

Got my Asus 5850 yesterday. Just decided to crank it up to 975/1225 @ just under 1.3v and it has been stable for hours in BFBC2. Will this cause any long term damage to the card?

Have to say the card is brilliant. Upgraded from a 3870X2 and it's a huge improvement. Got my E8400 up to 4ghz as well.

IT Troll · 21 Mar 2010 at 10:28

el Kuarlos said:
As a side note I have left my fan at stock, but have used a spotcool to hit the back of my card, mounted it in a hole drilled in my antec 300, brings air through the side vent right onto the business part of the card, I would recommend it to anyone who doesn't want to tinker with aftermarket coolers- shaves a decent chunk of temps and stops my processor heating up as much when the card starts getting hot.

I have just ordered one of these because I am finding that my northbridge is getting rather warm since installing the 5850. The H50 CPU cooler means that I don't have much air flow in that area - hopefully the Spot Cool will help.

kitch9 · 21 Mar 2010 at 10:59

liamcrane said:
Cool mate nice case! dont you find the stock fan profile to slow? when left on auto the fan never seems to go above 30%, i know the fan does get kinda loud but if you pump up the sound of your game you cant hear it and you do have cooler temps

Your chip is safe up until 120C. The fan will rev up if the chip needs it, if its on 30% thats all the designers of your card have deemed it needs. I don't know where the internet desire comes from to "keep temps down."

The thermal engineers at ATI will be a helluva lot more smarter than the armchair "experts" on the internet.