Current gen consoles peaked? and are you ready for the next gen?

who cares? they all let you play games on them!

Go play on your console of choice and stop squabbling like babies ;)

lol, have you actually read any of this. There's no squabbling going on atall. Its talking...About consoles....In the console section of the forum.

Squabbling is when someone says "X console is miles better than Y Console" Which has not been said anywhere, in any form.
 
lol, have you actually read any of this. There's no squabbling going on atall. Its talking...About consoles....In the console section of the forum.

Squabbling is when someone says "X console is miles better than Y Console" Which has not been said anywhere, in any form.

There was that dude who's never been in this forum before. :p
 
Well, I think attach rates say more than enough about the first point:

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=23308

You'd expect if the majority of the sales were made up by people buying multiple 360 consoles they'd be buying less software per system, but that's simply not the case.

Thanks for that link. its was a good read!

I saw what you wrote fanboy :mad:

:p

NINJA!

There was that dude who's never been in this forum before. :p

Ah yes. I'm not sure why but I seemed to miss that post first time round.... :p
 
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Anyone bored of the current gen?

I feel the 360 and Wii have pretty much peaked but I don't think the PS3 has peaked just yet, maybe once GT5 comes out it might.

The Wii peaked the day it came out.
The 360 peaked when Halo 3 came out.

Natal and Move do nothing for me. MS and Sony were forced into doing these because of of successful the Wi has been. I could care less for motion controlled games.

I am ready for the next microsoft console and nintendo console but still feel content with my PS3.

when i started reading the post i thought....... bet he plays PC/PS3.

but on the thread title...
can't think of my PS360 as having peaked with so many great games.

as for motion controls....

Natal was a must buy when i watched the E3 conference last year, but as we near this years E3 and 8 or so months from release i'm disappointed that M$ continue to only show it to a select few (behind closed doors) and there appears to be no improvements with the lag on that hit the ball game.

Move on the other hand has come on in leaps and bounds and i'm looking forward to using it.
 
Anyone bored of the current gen?

I feel the 360 and Wii have pretty much peaked but I don't think the PS3 has peaked just yet, maybe once GT5 comes out it might.

The Wii peaked the day it came out.
The 360 peaked when Halo 3 came out.

Natal and Move do nothing for me. MS and Sony were forced into doing these because of of successful the Wi has been. I could care less for motion controlled games.

I am ready for the next microsoft console and nintendo console but still feel content with my PS3.
None have peaked at all. The franchises are improving such as Mass effect, Halo (reach), Gears (3rd coming out), Forza 3 etc. and then new stuff like Alan wake show us the graphics are still something to be pushed.
None of the consoles have reached there peak.
 
None have peaked at all. The franchises are improving such as Mass effect, Halo (reach), Gears (3rd coming out), Forza 3 etc. and then new stuff like Alan wake show us the graphics are still something to be pushed.
None of the consoles have reached there peak.

I do think consoles have hit there limt when it comes to graphics im not sayin its time for new consoles tho.

Alan wake isnt even that good graphics dont get me wrong its ok but nothing special. Metro 2033 pushs the 360 as for as it can go and then if you see it on a pc it looks so much better! dont forget the 360s tech is 5 year old!
 
Best graphics doesn't mean a console has peaked. God of War 2 came out in 2007 and that was the best looking PS2 game.

I think people misunderstood my first post. To me, peak = when a console is at its most popular. 2007 was such a huge year for the 360, Halo 3/MW. Those two games are the most played online games for the 360. Nothing on the PS3 has came close to what Halo 3/MW did on the 360. Thats why I think GT5 might be the peak of the PS3.

The Wii hit its peak with Wii sports.
 
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I'm not sure consoles have peaked but I feel their limitations are showing now. Example for both consoles would be Bad Company 2. I don't think we will see a better looking game that big until the next consoles. Even though BC2 is very impressive graphically, pop in, aliasing, shimmering etc show that consoles need to be more powerful to render that world much better.

I would say if the 360 hasn't peaked yet it probably will do soon, mainly due to it being easier to develop for so developers didn't have to work as hard to max it. PS3 now I would say has the better games at the top end (majority wise they're fairly even) but yes Uncharted 2 and GoW do look better than anything I have seen on a 360.
 
I think the Ps3 is only getting into it's stride and has a good 4-5 years left in it. who knows what games we get in 2013/14 we could be having this conversation again
Also rumours of the 360 slim shows Microsoft want to drag the life out of the 360 for a good few years to come.

BTW when yould you say the PS2 peaked gamw wise?
 
I do think consoles have hit there limt when it comes to graphics im not sayin its time for new consoles tho.

Alan wake isnt even that good graphics dont get me wrong its ok but nothing special. Metro 2033 pushs the 360 as for as it can go and then if you see it on a pc it looks so much better! dont forget the 360s tech is 5 year old!
Yes they will look better on PC's that have newer technology but that doesn't mean they are at there limit. You can still squeeze more out of them by just learning how to best manage everything, new coding methods, new tricks etc. and you'll see games graphically improve in the future still.
 
a lot of the issue is that PCs will be held back in terms of dev as most big games now are designed for consoles, and if they can be arsed tweaked for the PC.
 
I think this gen could potentially go on for another 5 years, we've got the PS3 slim and probably the 360 slim soon to revitalise things.
And although I don't want them, Microsoft's 'Natal' and Sony's 'Move' aren't even out yet and you can bet they're going to want a good few years of those on the current gen.

I'm happy with the graphics we have now, and it'd be nice for more of the development efforts going into original IPs and great gameplay and storylines, instead of trying to squeeze out 2% improved graphics compared to the previous release or competing console, I know some will probably think it's a cliche to moan about the disparity between the focus on graphics and story/gameplay and are satisfied with most of the titles we have now, but I'm far from satisfied, so it's an issue for me.

If I could have another 5 years of what we've got now, with more focus on original IPs, deep gameplay and involved storylines, bring it on.
 
I'm very happy with the current generation, definitely not seeing a need for another generation yet. The graphics have reached a point where they are always generally good, and I think it just a case of cases exploring different gameplay variations now. Maybe in a few more years, but can't see the need for them at the moment.
 
I have been bored of current gen consoles since they were released. As usual all the hype and pre-release marketing was just a load of hogwash, and all we got was once again last gen games with slightly better graphics.

Nothing this gen has impressed me at all.

Really? Not GOW3, RE5, FF13, Mass Effect, and all the others? :confused:
 
Really? Not GOW3, RE5, FF13, Mass Effect, and all the others? :confused:

Fairly recently there have being games on the PS2 that have pushed the console further than its ever been.

God of War 2 is a fairly decent example of something that came very very late on in the consoles life and was still pushing boundaries.
 
I think this gen of consoles is just reaching its stride with regard to games, whether it be 360 or PS3. We are seeing some awesome games on both platforms. What is interesting is the quality of on-line gaming. MW2, BC2 (both cross platform) and MAG on the PS3. I think this is where the 360 is showing its limitations - it physically doesnt have the pure processing power to deal with truly massive online games (and I think both would suffer with something like EQ2 / WoW due to the shear volume of multi source rendering, compared to a modern PC).

I think the next gen of gaming, not just consoles will require greater processing power and a higher demand for bandwidth. Imagine BFBC4 with full scale wars, 250 players per side, with replication of true battlefield tac systems, where the tanks targeting computers talk to one another, or multiple apaches can track multiple targets in real time. Imagine having to call in a C130 spectre and having to fly and crew it. Think of games lasting hours, not minutes. Think of clan based gaming, where playing with friends gets squad unlocks or upgrades, not just individual unlocks. Imagine your clan starting off as combat grunts and working towards becoming Navy Seals, or a squadron of Apache Pilots, or whatever you want to be. This is the future of gaming. Dont get too hung up on graphics alone, think scale.

Imagine full mocap for race tracks, not just the current renders. Where data for the games is captured using sensors in cars to provide true real world physics. Add to this environmental real time data, so if it is raining at Nurburgring now, that is what you get on your console. Imagine being able to compete in a grand prix, the day after it really ran, to see how you would fair!

This is next gen gaming, not some grappy little GPU upgrade. Both Sony and Microsoft are looking way beyond what we are seeing now, They understand how advances in infrastructure (broadband / cloud computing) and developments in cinematic CGI / motion capture will allow the next gen of consoles to far outperform what we are seeing now. Hence they are working with both software houses and hardware vendors to develop consoles fro the next gen.

Also worth remembering that both Sony and Microsoft see these and the next gen devices as Media Hubs not just gaming consoles. So expect more 1080p streaming content also, maybe with HD webcams that connect to all of the users in your party. Expect augmented reality, where a webcam does realtime mocap and avatar rendering (like Avatar) for say MMOs. You may not like the idea of Natal or Sony's version, but we are seeing first gen of this kind of technology.

Then we have 3D TV, its here now. Sky have just bought 15,000 3D TV sets to put in pubs for the new sky 3D service. Who saw 3D coming when the PS3 and 360 were launched ? no one I bet, not even Sony and Microsoft. But there will be the expectation that the new consoles, PS4, 720 or whetever will ned to be able to support it.

1080p is old hat in japan, they have super HD which supports 4x the pixel density of HD. Does the new console have to support it ?

I know Major Nelson had the tech guys at Microsoft replace his HD on his 360 with a SSD drive. Has HD storage for your console had its day ? How does cloud computing fit into the console model ?

Add hand-helds onto this. MS have Zunes, Sony have PSPs, Nintendo have DS. We havent seen true integration of these into console gaming. Imagine playing an MMO (persistent world) where you can update your avatar or spacecraft (a la Eve online) or do crafting or train your squad via your hand held on a wifi connection, even when you are not fully logged on in game.

Console gaming has come a long way since Colecovision, Atari 2600, Binatone, NeoGeo. The modern console is still 1000x more powerful than the first Space Shuttle's on board computers, which had less than 1meg of ram. And over 1,000,000 more powerful than the total computing power of NASA when they put a man on the moon!

So maybe these consoles are reaching their limits with regard large scale multiplayer gaming, but they have years of development left with regards to ENJOYMENT. So rather then get into a pi$$ing competition on whose console platform is best, lets enjoy playing the current offering of bl00dy brilliant games. Personally I have never enjoyed gaming more than I have today. Making friends with total strangers, who have a similar desire to play the same games that I do and having a good laugh in the process is what makes it work for me, irrespective of the platform.

Mushii
 
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