The Alan Titchmarsh Show - Video Games

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Interesting watch , Although the sun editor and that woman clearly didn't know what they where on about.
Some of the anti-game arguments would be laughable - if this wasn't national telly.

As well as 'sexpert' Julie Peasgood claiming that games "promote racism" and "cause low self-esteem and depression", Tim also faced down erroneous allegations that games didn't have age ratings from Titchmarsh himself.

Former editor of The Sun Kelvin MacKenzie was a little less hysterical, but still certainly sat closer to the 'anti-games' camp.

Tim countered with strong arguments on gaming's regulation and the fact adult titles "shouldn't be getting into kids' hands in the first place".
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=239791
 
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Like most of these "daytime mothers" tv shows, it was heavily biased against that which "daytime parents" dont understand. Namely gaming.

The crowd clapping and cheering virtually every anti gaming view expressed.

It was just yet another one of those times when crappy parents, who have no justification being parents in the first place, seek to blame someone else for their own parental failings.

I thought Tim did admirably considering that every other person in the studio had already made up their mind before the first word was spoken that games are the devil. Its laughable that they dont mind the violence in shows like Deadwood and True Blood, or movies like Saw and Hostel. They wouldnt buy those films on DVD for their kids, yet they will go out and buy the latest 18 certificate game for their kids. Titchmarsh showed his complete lack of knowledge on the subject by not even being aware that games had ratings, something that would have been plainly evident to him if he had spent even 10 minutes actually doing any research.

Tim was quite right, if its an 18 certificate and someones kid owns the game and is playing it then there is only one source of blame and thats the parents. Either the parents fault for buying it in the first place, or the parents fault for being so isolated from their childs life and upbringing that they have no idea of what games the child is currently playing.
 
I agree Tombstone.

Everyone other than Tim came across as total "noobs".

Why did the conversation not move on to one of "Why parents letting their kids play these games".

The audience OBVIOUSLY have NO understanding of the industry and have never played a game in their lives and likely never will.
 
LOL Platypus too true.

Daytime tv is utter tripe there is simply no other way to describe it.

It caters for the long term unemployed and the brain dead.

I would like to see TV companies forced to broadcast educational "schools programs" during the hours of 9am to 4pm or failing that the test card. Like they used to in the 70s :D
 
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Daytime tv is utter tripe there is simply no other way to describe it.

It caters for the long term unemployed and the brain dead.
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You can always tell who TV is aimed at by watching the ads in between :

Cash my gold!
Claim for my injury!
Sell me life insurance if I'm over 60!
Lump all my debts into one huge debt!

Says it all really :D
 
The only annoying thing about that clip is that guy supporting the video games. Arrogant, self-inflated tit. He needs a smack in the mouth.
 
Games haven't made me violent, but I'd really like to roundhouse kick her in the ovaries ;).

It's a vicious circle, she's obviously said it to get media hype on the show, she may have a different opinion when she's not on the show, but as it goes, any publicity is good publicity.
 
Its like a visual version of the Daily Mail

The editor is also wrong saying that computer games influenced the Jamie Bulger killing - it was the film Childs Play that was cited as being partly the reason for the state in which the body was left. A film neither child should have watched in the first place.

They completely ignored the lad pointing out that some games have a rating but then its easier to blame the computer game rather than lazy parenting.

I would agree that there is a point that computer games are more immersive, but if an 18 year old plays Call Of Duty then starts running round stabbing people and calling them "Soap" then the person was probably a bit unhinged already and anything would set them off.

Still, why let common sense invade good old fashioned alarmist TV.


I was on a course once for work and in the break we got talking about the internet and gaming and my daughter will play her DS and use the internet. A woman also on the course looked at me like I was Joseph Fritzels english cousin! She had this pure unwavering belief that to allow a child to use the internet or play a computer game was a most heinous crime. COD I'll play whilst my 8 year old is around but she's not interested enough to take note. Anything scary like Dead Space I only play when shes out or asleep.
 
The main game they were ranting about was MW2 especially the Undercover Russia Level at the terminal.

I am not an aggressive person, far from it I am a liberal. I love FPS shooters, i have spent many hours on CS and MW2 for example. For me the lure is the competion and the challenge, playing these games to me is about precision, intelligence and quick wit. Its not about 'OMG it looks so good to stab someone in the face i will try it the next time I am out'.

I doubt the woman in the middle has ever played MW2 let alone the fairly famous russia airport level she was scathing at. While the cynic in me thinks IW mainly put it in to cause controversy to increase sales for me personally it really brought home just how awfull terrorism etc is. I truly found that level seriously chilling. While you did not have to kill any of the civilians on that level I found myself seriously perturbed and ended up mercy killing someone. After the level i had to turn the game off and take a break.

It is rare for me for a game to have an effect that I normally only experience in films where my morals are tested. Some of the best films I have ever watched have been the hardest to watch, it is great to see video games that can actually make me stop and think!

I actually agreed with the CVG guy. If I had a 8 year old son I would not let him watch an 18 rated film or an 18 rated game.
 
He didn't even seem to understand that games have age ratings.

Nice research there Titchmarsh, back to the garden please.

At the end of the day no matter how "bad" video games get they will be certified as an 18 and only 18 year olds and over can play them and to be fair shops in the UK are very very strict compared to the rest of the world.

Unless the parents are either irresponsible or think the kid is mature enough then they can't play them. So where is the problem?
 
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LOL, i love watching stuff like this, 3 gibbering old farts that clearly havn't a clue what theyre talking about and an audience full of semi comatose geriatrics who probably get shocked to applaud, then theyre allowed to slip back into the realms of unconciousness.
 
Quite funny how none of them had an answer when he kept going on about age ratings and the parental locks on all current gen systems, I think even the previous gen had locks in place too.
 
What a load of bs

Moron woman
'I'm categorically against violence for entertainment'

Sure, like she never watches any tv, soaps never stop with violence and they are on early enough for kids to watch without any age restrictions

Apart from street fighter all those games are 18+ and shouldn't be given to children.

Back to the garden TITmarsh
 
The absolute irony of this all (and yes I am sad for going to wiki, but :D )

Julie Peasgood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Peasgood

Video games
She contributed a vocal performance to Creative Reality's survival horror videogame Martian Gothic: Unification (2000


Now whether this is true or not, or if the game made it I dont know... but seriously... did the producer tell her that she was getting paid for fluffing pillows :D
 
Yeah her voice-over for that survival horror game is true.

I think what she really meant on the Titchmarsh "Show" was....

"I'm categorically against violence for entertainment, unless I'm being paid for it"
 
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