The eating one is already in place....My G/F's colleague had an open bag of crisps NEXT to her, and she got stopped and had a £30 fine or so
Doctors urge ban on smoking in cars
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The eating one is already in place....My G/F's colleague had an open bag of crisps NEXT to her, and she got stopped and had a £30 fine or so
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And there is the rub and usually it's with children who have no say.
Example :
One of my 15 year old Apprentices kept turning up for her placement at a Nursery and after a couple of weeks the Manager had to have a word with her about her smelling of fags when around the children.
She suggested that she bring a bag of clean clothes and when she arrives she could go into a spare room and change like some of the other workers do.
She took great exception to it because it was her Dad smoking in the car and very soon we had him knocking on our door complaining about his rights to smoke.
I asked if it was possible for the short distance he drove her to the placement (2 miles tops) that he refrained from smoking and I thought he was going to punch me.
He wasn't willing to stop smoking for 2 minutes and she wasn't willing to change so we pulled her out and the Nursery decided not to have any more placements
Moral - some people are very selfish and a law would help millions of kids up and down the country.
My neighbour has got 3 kids and the first thing she does is light up when she takes them to school in the car.
Solution is there then if there are kids in the car you can't smoke...
I don't smoke nor do I suffer road rage.
That's his point
Smoking calms some people...take away smoking said people may get more stressed
I hate the way you aren't allowed to hold a mobile while you drive yet it seems perfectly acceptable for smokers to have concentration lapses while they get out the lighter and light up while driving. Surely one is as distracting as the other when driving.
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but the solution here is banning people from smoking near children..
do you think their house (and thusly her clothes) didnt already stink of stale smoke before she got into the car?
many people commute or do whatever in their cars and should be allowed a cig, provided they arent harming anyone but themselves. this law seems to be a huge over stepping of the mark for the sake of a few situations...
simply banning smoking near kids altogether achieves the same thing but accomplishes more without penalising those without kids...?
when I smoked I would be "off my tree" for a few mins after, sure I am not the only one, certainly was not safe to drive
Typical response from the health fascists - when in doubt, try to get it banned. Utter morons. This in the same week when we learned (surprise, surprise) that "invisible" air pollution could be killing up to 50,000 per year (a damn sight more that passive smoking is alleged to kill). A lot of this pollution comes from cars, so why don't they advocate banning cars? This would mean that the poor little children would have to walk - again a health benefit to the majority of the fat little munters - and their parents could enjoy a nice fag in the open air as they walk with them.
This is more a question of good parenting - if you smoke, don't do it with your children in the car. Isn't it obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense?
The ban won't, of course, stop the irresponsible parents shovelling burgers, chips, crisps and coke down the little darlings, but never mind, at least they can sleep soundly knowing they haven't inhaled that treacherous 2nd hand smoke.
This is more a question of good parenting - if you smoke, don't do it with your children in the car. Isn't it obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense?
The ban won't, of course, stop the irresponsible parents shovelling burgers, chips, crisps and coke down the little darlings, but never mind, at least they can sleep soundly knowing they haven't inhaled that treacherous 2nd hand smoke.
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ahh the baccy headrush? i used to have to sit down when i had a cig! oh yea that gets old pretty quickly.
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Absolutely because she sometimes comes round our house and we have to go round with a spray when she's gone.
We do this with all smokers though because I don't think they realise what their clothes leave behind.
That'll do me.
I wasn't for the banning in pubs, just some sensible ruling would have done.
Well actually people have been done for lighting up while driving.
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smoking stinks. everything near a smoker when they smoke also stinks.
you cant smell it easily when your a smoker, but when you walk into a smokers house - you will know instantly.
i shudder to think what people next to me at uni lectures thought when i turned up having been doing nothing but smoking solidly in my room just prior.
now im at work, when people come inside from having been on a smoke break, you can literally smell them coming, nevermind if you have to sit next to them.
you cant smell it easily when your a smoker, but when you walk into a smokers house - you will know instantly.
i shudder to think what people next to me at uni lectures thought when i turned up having been doing nothing but smoking solidly in my room just prior.
now im at work, when people come inside from having been on a smoke break, you can literally smell them coming, nevermind if you have to sit next to them.
It does seem there is a growing consensus that smoking in enclosed spaces such as cars and homes with children is harmful and so perhaps bordering on child abuse.
But then again, so is feeding them crap, and much as it would be nice for smokers and fatties to start taking responsibility for the health of their children who don't have a choice - even if disregarding their own health - I doubt there's much the govt can do really.
But then again, so is feeding them crap, and much as it would be nice for smokers and fatties to start taking responsibility for the health of their children who don't have a choice - even if disregarding their own health - I doubt there's much the govt can do really.
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Not true. A car has a much smaller volume of space, concentrating the amount of smoke inhaled.
I personally think that parents who smoke around their kids (home, car, or even outside within close proximity) are total ****wits. No-one could care less what you do to yourself, but don't enforce it on kids who don't have that choice.
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I smoke in my car, I don't see the problem.
Hell I smoke in the works van, technically illegal, but the works van is caked in mud, completely knackered and stinks to high heavens anyway.
If I'm going down the motorway and have to keep pulling off every hour for a smoke it will mean road rage hell.
If you get lightheaded after your first fag of the day, thats just slightly wierd.
Hell I smoke in the works van, technically illegal, but the works van is caked in mud, completely knackered and stinks to high heavens anyway.
If I'm going down the motorway and have to keep pulling off every hour for a smoke it will mean road rage hell.
If you get lightheaded after your first fag of the day, thats just slightly wierd.
I guess the argument would be that you are harming the copper who pulled you over...
This is yet more busybodies trying to justify their high pay and perks. It'll never happen, and is totally unenforceable anyway.
What irks me more is people walking past prams and having no respect for the young child in it and often blowing smoke in their direction whereas they should be shielding their cigarette from them.
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I guess the argument would be that you are harming the copper who pulled you over...
This is yet more busybodies trying to justify their high pay and perks. It'll never happen, and is totally unenforceable anyway.
What irks me more is people walking past prams and having no respect for the young child in it and often blowing smoke in their direction whereas they should be shielding their cigarette from them.
But he does not need to get in my car where the smoke is. If he is that worried about passive smoking then I will call him on his mobile and keep the window shut.
The only reason this annoys me is that smoking has got such a bad press that it will harm you and others around you that it has blinded people to other things that are far worse.
I very rarely drink (alcohol) and see fights on a regular basis where someone has drunk too much and had an argument with someone else. I have also seen the aftermath of a drunk driver who caused a coach crash.
I am not condoning smoking, I am just saying that perhaps we need a little perspective. I am sure that if I stop smoking I will eventually reverse some of the damage that I have caused to myself. I am %100 sure that 1 of the kids in the coach that day will never have the chance to heal.
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Those doctors better remember who pays their wages!
Typical response of an idiot.... Just because you cant see it doesnt mean its not there (for example just because you cant see syphilis doesnt mean its causing your wang to fall off).
Anyway they are pricing people out of driving as much like smoking and drinking as most people are idiots and cant control them selves about it. Im sure there should be some sort of graph showing the more people abuse the situation (like cheap petrol) the more people will have to be restrained from abusing it further.
Banning smoking outright would not have worked, but making it increasingly socially unacceptable will do. It doesn't really matter if it's genuinely dangerous, if enough people decide smoking is disgusting it'll drop out of fashion.