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i7 860 nehalem and lynnfield ?

Assassin_012

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hi

i dno if theres a thread on dis, but....

can any1 tell me the difference between the Intel Core i7 860 2.80GHz (Nehalem) (Socket LGA1156) and the Intel Core i7 860 2.80GHz (Lynnfield)???

i plan on buyin 1 for a new PC....and i dno wich 1 to get.....so wich is better?

Thankz
 
They're the same thing mate. Lynnfield is a subset of the Nehalem architecture.

You almost certainly want the i5 750 or the i7 920 though, not that one.
 
eh? y is that? i no that i5 750 is gd...but i5 750 is better than i7?

also...isnt the i7 920 got like 2.6GHz? the i7 860 got 2.80GHz......

explain it in detail plz...

thankz
 
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Although the 860 is better than the 750 (hyperthreading, higher clock speed etc) the 750 is much better value for money due to being only a little slower for much cheaper.
Ignore the 'i5' and 'i7' stuff, it's just marketing. It's all a bit of a mess since the low end straddles 'i3' and 'i5' and then two different types of chip live in 'i5' and 'i7'. i5 750 and i7 860 are roughly the same chip but i7 860 and i7 920 are quite different due to requiring different boards and a different chipset, plus their feature set is quite different eg 860 has a PCIe controller built-in.
 
ok...so exactly which 1 is beter out of them 3

also ....wat is da best i7 CPU....round £200-£300?

im basically gonna buy/build a comp....n dno wot CPU to get =/

my friend helped me make a build...since my budget is round £800-£1000...im gonna use it for gaming.....is it gd? coz i want dis comp to last for ...5-10yrs (lol xD)...so i wont b buyin another comp for another 5-10yrs =/...but i want to be able to upgrade....like have xfire (dno wot it is but i fink its like adding another GPU lol)....

so..basically..what i am asking is....
  • what is better out of the i5 750, i7 860, and i7 920, i7 930
  • whats the best i7 CPU for round £200-£300?
  • is the build (image below) gd for gaming?
  • can it like ...last for round 5-10yrs...i fink its called futureproof? lol...(im new to dis forum btw xD)
  • if theres a better build let me know...(its gotta have a i5/i7 CPU...and gd graphics card...4gb RAM or more....also..its gotta have da storm scout case)
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Thankz
 
On that budget you would be better off switching the CPU to the i5 750, HDD to Samsung F3 500GB, case to something nice and GPU to a 5850.
The 850W is pretty overkill even if you want to put two 5770s in there.
 
I would probably wait a few weeks more TBH. This is because the Phenom II X6 is being released next month and also the GTX470 and GTX480 graphics should enter retail in the next few weeks too.
 
If its purely for gaming then i'd suggest getting this i5 CPU and this motherboard. Then spend the money you save on a 5850 graphics card (however, i'd wait until Friday to see how good Nvidia's new Fermi cards are).

The only major difference between i7 and i5 lynnfield chips is that the i7 has hyperthreading. However, most games are not nearly multithreaded enough to make use of this. This review [1] shows both i7 and i5 are excellent for gaming, but i5 is quite a bit cheaper. Spending the difference on a graphics card will improve you gaming experience much more than going from i5 to i7.

As for your spec, I would change a couple of things:

i7 860 to i5 750 as discussed
5770 to 5850 (provisionally until we see how Nvidia GTX 470 does)
Motherboard to UD5 as mentioned above.
This HDD
This PSU
This RAM
 
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coupe69 said:
I thought this was one of the last safe refuges from the chavs, but it looks like it's started :eek:
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Yep.
I think it's spelling thanks as "thankz" that is the worst though. I can kind of understand people text typing and shortening words for convenience, but this is just rank chavness.
"Education, education, education!" circa 1997.
 
lol...sorry for the slang...i guess i got used to typing like that. il try typing in english from now on.

BIGBC said:
On that budget you would be better off switching the CPU to the i5 750, HDD to Samsung F3 500GB, case to something nice and GPU to a 5850.
The 850W is pretty overkill even if you want to put two 5770s in there.
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mm...whats wrong with the case? it looks nice though..


cmndr_andi said:
If its purely for gaming then i'd suggest getting this i5 CPU and this motherboard. Then spend the money you save on a 5850 graphics card (however, i'd wait until Friday to see how good Nvidia's new Fermi cards are).

The only major difference between i7 and i5 lynnfield chips is that the i7 has hyperthreading. However, most games are not nearly multithreaded enough to make use of this. This review [1] shows both i7 and i5 are excellent for gaming, but i5 is quite a bit cheaper. Spending the difference on a graphics card will improve you gaming experience much more than going from i5 to i7.

As for your spec, I would change a couple of things:

i7 860 to i5 750 as discussed
5770 to 5850 (provisionally until we see how Nvidia GTX 470 does)
Motherboard to UD5 as mentioned above.
This HDD
This PSU
This RAM
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well...it isn't 'purely' for gaming...i ocassionally do DVD creating so i gess i thought a gd processor was needed ...and watching movies.....all the basic daily stuff really :)

yh and its got to last for atleast 5 yrs, because im paying like £800-£1000 for this :/ first time buying a comp for this much...but il prob upgrade parts like the GPU in future....

also whats hyperthreading? and whats it basically used for?
 
Hyper threading allows the OS to address two virtual processor for every one physcial processor on the CPU. This gives hyperthreading enables chips a performance benefit in heavily multithreaded applications.

Here is a comparison between the i5 750 and the i7 860. The i7 is clearly faster in many instances, especially in video encoding, however the i5 is still extremely capable. It is up to you whether you think this improvement is worth the extra £70.

Personally, I would suggest sticking with the i5 for your uses, and if you do want to spend the money on the i7 then instead use the more capable X58 platform along with a cheaper i7 900 series CPU.
 
Assassin_012 said:
lol...sorry for the slang...i guess i got used to typing like that. il try typing in english from now on.



mm...whats wrong with the case? it looks nice though..




well...it isn't 'purely' for gaming...i ocassionally do DVD creating so i gess i thought a gd processor was needed ...and watching movies.....all the basic daily stuff really :)

yh and its got to last for atleast 5 yrs, because im paying like £800-£1000 for this :/ first time buying a comp for this much...but il prob upgrade parts like the GPU in future....

also whats hyperthreading? and whats it basically used for?
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Hyperthreading gives CPU's additional logical cores (as opposed to physical cores) which without going into to much technical detail can give applications that can use the extra threads about 25% more performance. It's really handy if you do a lot of video encoding, rendering and other CPU intensive tasks but doesn't give you any extra edge in gaming. In the task manager the hyperthreading cores show up along side the physical cores so you have 8 boxes on a quad core chip.
 
This is what you're looking for:

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Change the PSU to Corsair HX 650W if you want to Crossfire 5850s in the future.

Monitor is just a suggestion, feel free to change it.

Get a decent cooler for your CPU when you have some spare cash. Overclock the CPU too!
 
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