We'll see. I expect the BA share price to take a hammering when investors find out how much Walsh's desire to crush the union is costing them.
Poll: Do you support the BA Cabin Crew 12 day strike at Christmas?
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We'll see. I expect the BA share price to take a hammering when investors find out how much Walsh's desire to crush the union is costing them.
That will of course depend on the investors view of the costs of not facing down the union... So far the share price suggests this is considered short term pain for long term gain.
BA massively overpay staff who, whilst I dont know any personal circumstances, do exactley the same job as cabin crew for any other company.
BA are taking the right stance in not giving in to them, I would be fully behinf them if they laid off every member of staff who was striking and replaced them.
If people work well then they deserve high pay, but to be paid massively over the industry average and still want more and more is just plain greed and BA staff being used to bending the company over and getting what they want.
Never been in favour of union action and this has done nothing to help bring me round to their way of thinking.
BA are taking the right stance in not giving in to them, I would be fully behinf them if they laid off every member of staff who was striking and replaced them.
If people work well then they deserve high pay, but to be paid massively over the industry average and still want more and more is just plain greed and BA staff being used to bending the company over and getting what they want.
Never been in favour of union action and this has done nothing to help bring me round to their way of thinking.
Long term thinking from investors? That would be a first.
I think they learnt short-termism from the Labour governments of the 50s, 70s and 00s to be honest
I've just come back from holiday, only staying one night in London, then i'm off to Germany on Monday.
Does anyone know if these current strikes will affect my flight?
EDIT:
Just checked on BA, says it'll be taken over by Titan airways.
Who the hell are these cowboys?
Does anyone know if these current strikes will affect my flight?
EDIT:
Just checked on BA, says it'll be taken over by Titan airways.
Who the hell are these cowboys?
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This thread is full of lol's.
I'll be thinking about all the anti-unionists here when I'm negotiating myself and my colleagues a pay rise and job security agreement on Tuesday.
I'll be thinking about all the anti-unionists here when I'm negotiating myself and my colleagues a pay rise and job security agreement on Tuesday.
You keep doing that, I prefer to gain my pay rise on merit though...
I presume I'm an 'Anti-unionist' because I don't support the bullying behaviour of the trade unions in response to an entirely reasonable request...
Apologies for the double post, but I think this is worth considering again as it seems to have dropped below the radar.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8413529.stm
What is unrealistic or unfair about these proposals?
This brings the cabin crew numbers in line with Gatwick, no noticable loss of quality has been observed.
This makes perfect sense, and seems incredibly fair, as they are not only guaranteeing better pay than market rate, but they are also not touching existing staff's T&Cs at all.
None of the problems represent a change in terms and conditions for existing staff (confirmed by the high court). They are doing much to protect existing staff when they could justifiably argue for pay cuts, or even imposition of new style contracts on old staff.
What alternative, long term beneficial proposals, would be better for the staff while bringing the airlines costs down to a more acceptable level? Alternatively, what extra expectations could be made of the staff to justify their much higher pay? Is there an approach that could lead to people choosing BA at a higher price than their rivals?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8413529.stm
What is unrealistic or unfair about these proposals?
This brings the cabin crew numbers in line with Gatwick, no noticable loss of quality has been observed.
This makes perfect sense, and seems incredibly fair, as they are not only guaranteeing better pay than market rate, but they are also not touching existing staff's T&Cs at all.
None of the problems represent a change in terms and conditions for existing staff (confirmed by the high court). They are doing much to protect existing staff when they could justifiably argue for pay cuts, or even imposition of new style contracts on old staff.
What alternative, long term beneficial proposals, would be better for the staff while bringing the airlines costs down to a more acceptable level? Alternatively, what extra expectations could be made of the staff to justify their much higher pay? Is there an approach that could lead to people choosing BA at a higher price than their rivals?
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Yes . . . indeed . . . quite so - too young and/or ill-informed to realise the damage she did to British society and community spirit
Yes . . . indeed . . . quite so - too young and/or ill-informed to realise the damage she did to British society and community spirit
lots
Yes . . . indeed . . . quite so - too young and/or ill-informed to realise the damage she did to British society and community spirit
Either of you care to discuss the actual reason the staff are striking, and what alternative positions could have been taken (on either side)?
Or are Ad homs the best debate you can offer?
Watch the company crash and burn, everyone out of a job, well done.
Care to try for a serious reply? (Alternatively, if you are serious
)Care to try for a serious reply? (Alternatively, if you are serious
wyh nott?
Because your position suggests a massive lack of understanding about the role of an executive and the benefits good ones bring to the company.
How do you think that sacking all the executives, and raising the cabin crew's pay even higher above the market rate than it already is, will actually benefit BA as a whole?
If you worked for the same company as amigafan, then all your merit would have got you would be pressure to accept a pay cut.
And whether that was reasonable or not would depend on how my existing terms compared to the market rate...
Of course, some companies who have previously given in to trade union bullying are now having to try and counteract the long term effects of what they were bullied in to... As evidenced by the problems besetting many formerly nationalised companies