NINE YEAR THREAD BUMP: Catholic church and child abuse

What I believe:

Left to their own devices, good people will strive to do good, and evil people will strive to do evil. If you want a good person to do something evil, then you need religion.

Religion can be one thing that can make a good person do evil, that's for sure.

Militant atheism is the way forward ;)
 
Amazing how some can slam one particular religion but seemingly all is quiet when another is rife with paedophiles.



Don't worry , the Pope's written a pastoral letter so it's all ok.

I could always make the obvious (though somewhat inaccurate) comparison to Islam if it would make you feel better? :D
 
Personally, from the PoV of a Catholic (not a hardcore, just a normal lazy one), the Pope should have excommunicated the people involved and the authorities brought in to conduct an investigation into this serious claim instead of this pastoral letter BS.
 
Because there are too many of them, they would all start a war if we arrested the pope.

What they are doing to these children is pure torture it was pure evil.
 
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Personally, from the PoV of a Catholic (not a hardcore, just a normal lazy one), the Pope should have excommunicated the people involved and the authorities brought in to conduct an investigation into this serious claim instead of this pastoral letter BS.

Well it's difficult for the pope to excommunicate people for stuff when he's implicated in the cover up too. Everyone's involved really.
 
Because there are too many of them, they would all start a war if we arrested the pope.

What they are doing to these children is pure torture it was pure evil.

An investigation!!

Do the maths, catholic believers = child abuse. We have started wars for lesser thing than skinning innocent children of their sacredness!!
 
groen said:
i read on another forum that, they are probably not even catholic but believe in another religion some ancient religion or something. Where they believe that they have been cleared of their morels and such have to rape children etc.

Catholicism isn't ancient enough for them, you mean?
 
They don't face charges because the abuse goes right up to the top and within government and police and all areas of authority are complicite and often work together.

You see evil people are attracted to positions of authority and power, that is why most of the people in the government/police/cps/council etc are evil. (my opinion)

You're not seriously saying that the police and government are complicit in child abuse, are you?
 
It amazes me that people openly support an institution which is responsible for some of the worst causes of mass murder in history. I wouldn't mind if religion was made due to the supposed truth it preaches but instead it was an invention to get tax from all people who come under it under the premise of if you dont obey the church you WILL go to hell for being a bad person lol.

People need to wake up and assess if they really should get their moral values from such "examples"
 
You don't seriously believe that do you?

He has major issues with religion, thinks it's the root of all evil and all that.

It's like claiming a "gun" is evil, an engineered object is evil, no, it's the people who use guns for evil "deeds" are the ones that are evil.

There are non-religious people who do such things, it's got nothing to do with religion, it's just how some people are.

As has already been said, some people are drawn to positions of power so they can do the bad things they want to do, it's common sense really.
 
While I do believe religion causes more harm than good in general, everyone should have the right to be "wrong".

It's the fact that they are loaded and pay no tax that annoys me.
Blatantly these organisations are about power and money and nothing to do with helping people.

There are Christian charities such as the salvation army but they aren't the church.

I have never seen any Christian/Muslim/Catholic/Jewish place of worship really doing any good in the community or anything like that and if they do it is we will feed you if you convert kind of thing and the money goes back to them???? Perhaps I am wrong but they need to make their good actions more known about, instead they are known for molesting kids.

No better than some form of pyramid scheme or cult really.

Nice one.
 
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eh?
What on earth are you talking about?

He's basically saying that he's read that Catholicism has roots in Pagan and old world religions, and that those in high places of Catholicism aren't "Catholics" in the same way an average "Catholic" person is.

The high ups in the Catholic church bare a strong resemblance to ancient Egyptians and so on.

Either way you look at it, they're corrupt and obviously have some ulterior motive.
 
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