EA follows Ubisoft, will sell titles with 'always on' DRM

Referring to some of the earlier disparaging sentiments along the lines of, "tough if your internet isn't always on". Our BT phone line seems to consist of twisted bellwire, more often than not you lose the DSL signal a couple of times a week. Last weekend we lost the dial tone for two days (came back of its own accord Monday morning, funny that). Report a fault and you get all sorts of dire threats about £127 call out charge, that's assuming you can get past the Bangalore or last weekend sounded like Jo'burg call centre.

And this is not out in the sticks, it's on a residential estate three miles from the centre of a large provincial town.
 
EA can't even get online games working without massive problems so what chance perfect DRM.

The one possible good thing that could come out of this is that smaller start up companies may have a fighting chance to sell their games if people start to drift away from the big boys.
 
Bellwire issues can be normally relieved by removing the wire from connection 3 for all phone sockets around the home.

However, one should double-check your socket type and draw an impressionist style canvass before playing. ;)
 
why are some muppets comparing an always on connection to DX10 ?
DX10 has visual benefits for the user.....what benefit does always having to be connected in a sp game give to the user ?

rejoicing at the fact that you can't always play a single player game anymore ...unless you pirate it ? (insert face palm emote here).
 
Amnesia said:
rejoicing at the fact that you can't always play a single player game anymore ...unless you pirate it ? (insert face palm emote here).
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What do you expect, there will always be some morons who can't bend over fast enough to accept whatever crap companies dish out. I suspect they won't even care when EA starts telling people at what times you're allowed to play your own game.
 
Amnesia said:
why are some muppets comparing an always on connection to DX10 ?
DX10 has visual benefits for the user.....what benefit does always having to be connected in a sp game give to the user ?

rejoicing at the fact that you can't always play a single player game anymore ...unless you pirate it ? (insert face palm emote here).
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Calm down and dont call me a muppet again. :rolleyes:

DX10 is a techical req.

A constant connection is also a technical req.

Theres no real difference - they are both minimum reqs - just because their is no perceived benefit to the user is irrelevant.

Rejoicing? Over react much do you? :D
 
Evilsod said:
What do you expect, there will always be some morons who can't bend over fast enough to accept whatever crap companies dish out. I suspect they won't even care when EA starts telling people at what times you're allowed to play your own game.
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:rolleyes:
 
n111ck said:
Calm down and dont call me a muppet again. :rolleyes:

DX10 is a techical req.

A constant connection is also a technical req.

Theres no real difference - they are both minimum reqs - just because their is no perceived benefit to the user is irrelevant.

Rejoicing? Over react much do you? :D
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Oh i'm sorry if you're a little butthurt.

The device in your computer is a technical requirement. Its upto YOU to have it upto scratch in order to play the game. If you actually think a broadband net connection and a graphics card can be counted on the same lines you are nothing more than a deluded idiot. If my computer breaks down its probably my fault, at the very least i'm responsible for getting it fixed. If some server breaks down 200 miles away or the connection blips for a second or the ISP has a hissy fit ...or...or... etc. They are not my fault yet for some reason i can no longer play a game that runs entirely on my computer for no better reason than the company wants to control it?
 
n111ck said:
Calm down and dont call me a muppet again. :rolleyes:


just because their is no perceived benefit to the user is irrelevant.
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if you just stopped rolling your eyes and focused for a minute then you would perceive the difference.
 
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It made me giggle.
 
LOL at this argument, yes single player games don't need an internet connection but this one does regardless if it is actually used for anything beneficial to the EU. so it is a minimum req. if they didnt put it on the box and some kid without the net tried to play it wouldn't work, he would be angry and his lawyer would stand a good chance.


And yes you are responsible for your own internet connection. Get fibre optic, get a leased line, get 6 internet connections and bond them together, get a better ISP etc etc.



I still agree it is a load of rubbish and will pirate any games with it, but there are also some rather thick people in this thread.
 
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Evilsod said:
I'm looking at one right now.
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Look, is it really that hard to understand, you chose your internet connection, if it isn't very good then get a better one it is EXACTLY like your graphics card. it is just a service and not a tangible product.

If EAs connection goes down then you can complain but you can't blame EA for your internet being poor.


What do you mean by a "server breaks down 200 miles away"

Is this server one owned by your ISP? is it one owned by EA? is it one owned by a transit company?

it is always someone's fault. just because you don't know who it is doesn't matter.
 
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starfighter said:
Look, is it really that hard to understand, you chose your internet connection, if it isn't very good then get a better one.

If EAs connection goes down then you can complain but you can't blame EA for your internet being poor.
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Maybe you should see a psychiatrist, you seem to be living inside a perfect world created in your own mind. ISPs have problems occasionally, even the best, routing hubs have problems occasionally, EA has problems more often, the hand of god smites your router occasionally, whatever. Why should any of these have even the slightest bearing on when i can play a Singleplayer game installed on MY computer? Because you can guarantee the day you want to sit down and play through it something that is completely out of your control will prevent it, stating that you can avoid it (at huge expense to reduce the likelihood no doubt) is absolute bull****.

Pirated copy = Ability to play offline without any problems
Legit copy = Tiny glitch in your connection and all progress is gone

For a multiplayer game this wouldn't be a problem, for a singleplayer game it is. EA nor Ubisoft provide absolutely nothing but a stupid restriction using this DRM. If they would stream me cookies and ice cream while i play then maybe...
 
I'm a little puzzled though, have people actually managed to crack Assassin's Creed 2 yet? I was under the impression that the only way to play it was to buy a legit copy at present.
 
Evilsod said:
Maybe you should see a psychiatrist, you seem to be living inside a perfect world created in your own mind. ISPs have problems occasionally, even the best, routing hubs have problems occasionally, EA has problems more often, the hand of god smites your router occasionally, whatever. Why should any of these have even the slightest bearing on when i can play a Singleplayer game installed on MY computer? Because you can guarantee the day you want to sit down and play through it something that is completely out of your control will prevent it, stating that you can avoid it (at huge expense to reduce the likelihood no doubt) is absolute bull****.

Pirated copy = Ability to play offline without any problems
Legit copy = Tiny glitch in your connection and all progress is gone

For a multiplayer game this wouldn't be a problem, for a singleplayer game it is. EA nor Ubisoft provide absolutely nothing but a stupid restriction using this DRM. If they would stream me cookies and ice cream while i play then maybe...
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I agree what they are doing is totally useless, it wont help and only annoy people with dodgy net connections it is **** and I agree even the best connection isn't 100% where as it would work 100% if it didn't need it but saying you are out of control of your internet connection is incorrect.
 
starfighter said:
I agree what they are doing is totally useless, it wont help and only annoy people with dodgy net connections it is **** and I agree even the best connection isn't 100% where as it would work 100% if it didn't need it but saying you are out of control of your internet connection is incorrect.
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No, its not. You get control to a degree, you can choose reliable ISP and get a decent router, but if you honestly think that is enough you're deluded. The chance that EAs servers are down or they have connection issues is hardly unheard of (Dragon Age was always weird in that respect) and in that case you can't play your own SP game? Not to mention not everyone has the choice they want over where they live and not everywhere will have a reliable connection. If you want MP this is something you have to live with, why should we now live with it on SP.

On that note, atm i'm in Northern Finland. Wired connections cost 1 hell of a lot more than a Wireless connection and no matter how good the ISP is, poor conditions or whatever will always mess with the signal.
 
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