Does a good brand powersupply make any difference EZCOOL to better brand?

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Hi like the thread says does having a better branded psu make any difference to your pc. I am currently running my [email protected] B3 stepping, 4gb ram, 2 hard drives,4gb ram,2 optical drives in a antec 902 with a ezcool 550 watt and it all seems to be running fine.

But after asking in a thread about what gpu to upgrade to i was recommended the 5850 but they say I should upgrade my psu first. Is it necessary? Couldn't it still work and I save my self money.

If there is valid reason to get psu do you guys have any recommendations as I heard corsair have good psu and a modular would be best

thanks:cool:
 
A quick google of ezcool psu's show that they are terrible. An 800w psu for £45 :o , GET RID NOW !
And yes get a corsair psu :).
 
A better branded psu is better, a lot of the name less crap tend to go pop and take a lot of other hard ware out with them.

So really just buy a good psu to begin with.
 
Depends what you have to spend and first what are you running so you can work out work psu you need.
 
CAPTAINBUMFLUFF said:
Hi like the thread says does having a better branded psu make any difference to your pc. I am currently running my [email protected] B3 stepping, 4gb ram, 2 hard drives,4gb ram,2 optical drives in a antec 902 with a ezcool 550 watt and it all seems to be running fine.

But after asking in a thread about what gpu to upgrade to i was recommended the 5850 but they say I should upgrade my psu first. Is it necessary? Couldn't it still work and I save my self money.

If there is valid reason to get psu do you guys have any recommendations as I heard corsair have good psu and a modular would be best

thanks:cool:
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Specs are above no necessary budget as long as it can be justified. The lower the better but has to be modular
 
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Couldn't it still work and I save my self money.
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Rule number one of the computer building process: never skimp out on the power supply. As a general rule, low cost, generic products or 'value' brands often mislabel key performance indicators such as sustainable wattage and current supplied to components (e.g. listing only peak values for each). They also often lack safety and regulatory measures which address extremes of behaviour under different load scenarios.

Situation is complicated by the fact that they are just about well behaved enough to supply the system with necessary power during largely idle periods or low stress cases. Hence most people will not know any better, until it is too late and they see either a performance drop or degradation over time, if not a fully functional fireworks display. ;)

In all fairness, though, you cannot tell for certain until you test any given unit down the spec. sheet on all of its claims. Unfortunately, a dominant majority of consumers will not bother with owning a basic power testing kit for the job, relying on trial-by-fire instead which is hardly accurate or scientific.

This is why you were advised to upgrade your power supply unit when considering a newer GPU. And to be frank, at the entry price point for most reputable manufacturers it does not make sense not to and temp fate down the road, possibly risking more expensive kit in the process.

P.S.

Since the thread moved on whilst I was posting, I would say 650 model is more than enough, unless you plan to go for a dual GPU setup, more drives or high performance fans later.
 
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Rule number one of the computer building process: never skimp out on the power supply. As a general rule, low cost, generic products or 'value' brands often mislabel key performance indicators such as sustainable wattage and current supplied to components (e.g. listing only peak values for each). They also often lack safety and regulatory measures which address extremes of behaviour under different load scenarios.

Situation is complicated by the fact that they are just about well behaved enough to supply the system with necessary power during largely idle periods or low stress cases. Hence most people will not know any better, until it is too late and they see either a performance drop or degradation over time, if not a fully functional fireworks display. ;)

In all fairness, though, you cannot tell for certain until you test any given unit down the spec. sheet on all of its claims. Unfortunately, a dominant majority of consumers will not bother with owning a basic power testing kit for the job, relying on trial-by-fire instead which is hardly accurate or scientific.

This is why you were advised to upgrade your power supply unit when considering a newer GPU. And to be frank, at the entry price point for most reputable manufacturers it does not make sense not to and temp fate down the road, possibly risking more expensive kit in the process.

P.S.

Since the thread moved on whilst I was posting, I would say 650 model is more than enough, unless you plan to go for a dual GPU setup, more drives or high performance fans later.
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Thanks for the info do you think I should get

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-022-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1084

or

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-166-CM&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1103

Just want a card that would power a single High end card in future say i get a 5870 down the line

thanks
 
I'd advise against a modular PSU. Odds are you'll end up with most of the cables connected, unless you want as much load on as few cables as possible (never a good idea).

For the price of the HX650, you could actually have a TX750, which would give you another 100w to play with. Alternatively, save £15 and grab a TX650.
 
The 600W model still delivers enough current on the 12v rail and is quite similar to the 650 in that respect. Save yourself twenty odd quid, since the difference between 5850 and 5870 under load is about 18 watts. Models rated 650 and up would only make sense in dual gpu (5970) or multi-card cases.

However, if money is a concern, you can get more power for less cash out of non modularly wired units. But I figure you decided to go with the more straightforward option in terms of cable management?
 
So the 600 would be ok for 5870 and 5850 do you think its worth saving the £25 what would you do in my position forgot to add i have a asus essence aswell. Would you pay the extra if you had the option

Currently in a dilemma not sure whether to get a 700 watt coolermaster or the 650 watt corsair. Coolermaster is £10 cheaper but not sure if the corsair is better quality or not
 
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If I was in your shoes - primarily going for the graphics card - I would stick to my original budget to compliment the original purchase, unless there was a compelling reason not to. In the case of your system, I did not see a need to go beyond 600w on the psu, and hence paying more on the modular route. :)
 
What is your total budget? It will be the best starting point. Bare in mind that the minimum price you are looking at paying for a reasonable, branded PSU capable of pulling a modern [upper end] graphics card is around £50 new.

P.S.

While I am at it, HD5770 > gts250 (essentially a re-branded 9800GTX, which is rather dated now).
 
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No problems. HD5850 seems to be a bit of a stretch, though. It is a good card, but it will be difficult to handle the PSU upgrade at the same time, which it does need. You can try the second hand route, but I would recommend getting a modular PSU, which you want, plus HD5770. Just make sure you get the 1GB version, since OcUK now stocks 512mb memory variants, too. It fits the bill and you can add a second 5770 down the line, provided your motherboard supports crossfire, to get up to a similar level of performance a single 5870 will offer.

has to be modular due to it being so untidy in my case.
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Coolermaster offering will be attractive from this point, since it comes with flat, braided cabling. I have seen its sinblings in actual builds on these forums and it does look pleasant.
 
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