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GTX 480 or ATI's 5870?

straxusii said:
If it's money no object and you wont be overclocking get the 480 otherwise it's the 5870
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if money was no object he'd get a 5970.
seriously i can't believe people are offering the 480 over a 5850 or 5870.

No, not a fanboy, it's just clear the 480 isn't value for money. yes some benches are good but the 5870 beats it in some too and then wipes the floor with it on power, heat and overclocking.

no one wants a card sitting at 95ºc in their case and heating up everything else. it's suicidal.

imagine what it'll be like in the summer :eek:
 
Whilst I am getting a 480 for 120hz and 3d vision, these don't apply to you so get either a 5870 or, if you are happy to overclock, a 5850 for the reasons others have posted. mucho savings and if you do go 5850 you will be VERY tempted to put in a 2nd one for crossfire, i think all on the forum would for around £200
 
5870!!!... sig says it all ;)
4** series are awful.

like every one says above the heat alone makes the 480 worthless! Along with the PSU pull and the price tag.. its a pure bragging right (even tho id laugh at some one trying to brag about having ANY part of a computer let alone a part like 480) get a 5870! (or 5850 in crossfire) < they even draw less power than one 480! and a lot more powerful (im 90% sure anyway)
 
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Mr Fujisawa said:
Whilst I am getting a 480 for 120hz and 3d vision, these don't apply to you so get either a 5870 or, if you are happy to overclock, a 5850 for the reasons others have posted. mucho savings and if you do go 5850 you will be VERY tempted to put in a 2nd one for crossfire, i think all on the forum would for around £200
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i know you're limited to what you can purchase because of your needs (3d vision, 120hz) but do you not feel worried at all regarding the heat/power/noise etc of the new cards?.

serious question and not looking for a flame war
 
magicroundabout said:
i know you're limited to what you can purchase because of your needs (3d vision, 120hz) but do you not feel worried at all regarding the heat/power/noise etc of the new cards?.

serious question and not looking for a flame war
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But doesnt it use less power and produce less heat than a 4780x2? No one ever moaned about them, great cards.
 
All the people who quote CUDA as a reasont to buying, how many actually need it? Surely for most people buying a 5850, clocking the hell out of it, and spending the remainder on a faster CPU or something will be more beneficial?!
 
you chaps say get a 5850 and clock it to a 5870, why not get a 5870 and clock it futher ?
:) i was all for x3 way 480, even put in my order, that was soon put to bed and now, i think, i will work on my case mods and await for the 495 or prices on the 5970 to lower.
 
What's with the GTX480 verus HD5870???

The comparison should be between the similar priced products - therefore it is GTX470 v HD5870.
The GTX480 is closer to performance and cost of the HD5970.

As for the extreme temp jibes of the GTX480 - it is true in ALL cards that use GDDR5, even the lower-end cards. You can't run an electical component at over 3000MHz without expecting it to bring a little heat.

As for the Nvidia GTX470; it is packing 1.2GB VRAM, and although its running almost 1500MHz slower than the HD5870, by giving it a larger bus width (320-bit) Nvidia have given it a large amount of bandwidth (133.9 GB/s).
So with some better cooling and a little overclocking it will more than match the HD5870's 153.6 GB/s (256-bit bus).

I think ATI released the HD5800 series at a price that doesn't represent their performance, and so they allow Nvidia to do the same.

What I'm looking forward to is the drop in price of Nvidia's GTX285 and GTX275.
SLI GTX275 for the same price as a single HD5870!

Single cards at £300+ are not good enough, with most of us probably having SLI or Xfire capable boards anyway, why not use them?
 
Jayce85 said:
What's with the GTX480 verus HD5870???

The comparison should be between the similar priced products - therefore it is GTX470 v HD5870.
The GTX480 is closer to performance and cost of the HD5970.

As for the extreme temp jibes of the GTX480 - it is true in ALL cards that use GDDR5, even the lower-end cards. You can't run an electical component at over 3000MHz without expecting it to bring a little heat.

As for the Nvidia GTX470; it is packing 1.2GB VRAM, and although its running almost 1500MHz slower than the HD5870, by giving it a larger bus width (320-bit) Nvidia have given it a large amount of bandwidth (133.9 GB/s).
So with some better cooling and a little overclocking it will more than match the HD5870's 153.6 GB/s (256-bit bus).

I think ATI released the HD5800 series at a price that doesn't represent their performance, and so they allow Nvidia to do the same.

What I'm looking forward to is the drop in price of Nvidia's GTX285 and GTX275.
SLI GTX275 for the same price as a single HD5870!

Single cards at £300+ are not good enough, with most of us probably having SLI or Xfire capable boards anyway, why not use them?
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What?

Te 5870 is the one that is close to the 480...

the 5970 is no where close to any of them!
 
Jayce85 said:
As for the extreme temp jibes of the GTX480 - it is true in ALL cards that use GDDR5, even the lower-end cards. You can't run an electical component at over 3000MHz without expecting it to bring a little heat.
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:/ I would say that the power draw from the memory is insignificant in comparison with the rest of the components on the PCB, namely the GPU.
 
480 is an awesome chip, price, power and heat are issues every first next-gen card suffers. The problem is it's built to eat dx11, it handles tessellation, physics and ray tracing far better than the 5870, except there's no games making use of them.... Pretty much everything is built around dx9 still, with dx10/11 features stuck on at the end (blame consoles) so it comes down to cuda, and the ventilation in your case :)
 
Jayce85 said:
What's with the GTX480 verus HD5870???

The comparison should be between the similar priced products - therefore it is GTX470 v HD5870.
The GTX480 is closer to performance and cost of the HD5970.
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GTX480 close to performance of a 5970. you are joking right?
And also it's a single GPU v single GPU comparison. Which is fair.

Jayce85 said:
As for the extreme temp jibes of the GTX480 - it is true in ALL cards that use GDDR5, even the lower-end cards. You can't run an electical component at over 3000MHz without expecting it to bring a little heat.
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You can as the 5870 is running at 29ºc at idle and only 60ºc at load on my machine. Hitting temps of 95ºc is just a disaster and the life of the card will be short
 
Jayce85 said:
As for the Nvidia GTX470; it is packing 1.2GB VRAM, and although its running almost 1500MHz slower than the HD5870, by giving it a larger bus width (320-bit) Nvidia have given it a large amount of bandwidth (133.9 GB/s).
So with some better cooling and a little overclocking it will more than match the HD5870's 153.6 GB/s (256-bit bus).
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Pay more, get less, but don't worry you can overclock an already melting hot card to get the same, Great!

Or you could just buy a nice, much cooler 5870 and overclock it way past the GTX470?
 
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