20th Century fox vs Newzbin

If both CD's and DVD's were £1 each people would still download for the price of their Usenet connection.
Let's see - 12 month unlimited downloading subs to Newshosting for £80 where £80 = 80 CD's or DVD's doing it legally.
Hmm, wonder which most would go for?

I doubt I've downloaded 80 cds / films in the last 12 months. Thats quite a bit of content.
 
Reading through parts of the judgement you have to cringe at the questions and answers... omg how did they think they had a chance of winning.....

/note to owners of any form... do not post on your publically known username!
 
I don't get it? They don't directly contribute to copyright theft, but facilitate it by linking? Correct? So who's next, Google? Yahoo? Bing? I can get tonnes of copyrighted material through google and without paying for said service aswell!

Ridiculous.

No, Google, Yahoo et al have the financial muscle to continue fighting in the courts. The likes of Newzbin obviously don't have money to **** away.
 
I don't understand why people pay for newzbin anyway? It was the first site i used many years ago, but there are plenty of other ways to search for files for free =\
 
I don't understand why people pay for newzbin anyway? It was the first site i used many years ago, but there are plenty of other ways to search for files for free =\

It's a very easy to use package and has a very good established userbase so comments are quite good on the files. Although it doesn't seem very good now, I've found NZBMatrix to be much better (It's also a one off payment of like £5 or something and not a subscription)

Yes there are ways to get them for free but the likes of Newzleecher and such used to be quite hard to navigate and had no reviews.
 
I found newzbin went down hill along time ago tho.

You have files on there with 1 comment saying "virus" so you either waste your time downloading it/scanning it or you find anouther file.

I got fed up of paying for something when i have to do the same thing with no userbase
 
Ive used newzbin for years, according to their news section they keep no details whatsoever about us. Recently they did say they started logging usernames but not what they have downloaded.

When the site was the only premium service around it was worth using, but with nzbmatrix etc charging money for a 10 year sub it would be silly to keep using newzbin. Ive jumped ship anyway.
 
Why don't these film/music/TV companies get an online service going. I would happily pay £10 a month for a few TV shows I watch.

I have Sky but never watch it as I hate being tied to a time I have to watch it, also Sky Plus is restricted, I can't backup my recordings.

because by doing so, the retail estate that is HMV, all your gaming shops etc..a large portion of our retail economy dies as soon as this happens?

meaning more people unemployed. less people earning money = higher piracy...

Do you think that bypassing and cutting out the huge entertainment retail sector from the UK, just so that you can access that film right NOW, would be good for the economy, given the incremental job loss, would lower piracy?
 
I hope Caesium doesn't get some time over this, he is genuinely a nice guy. Used to play on his and barts css server SkyBlueGaming, then gamed a bit with him when the server shut down and he went to op2.

Bart as far as I know was behind FinalBattleGround, dunno if Caesium was involved in that or not.

Those were the days....

And by the sounds of it, he'll think twice before getting another solicitor off a cereal box coupon :p
 
because by doing so, the retail estate that is HMV, all your gaming shops etc..a large portion of our retail economy dies as soon as this happens?

meaning more people unemployed. less people earning money = higher piracy...

Do you think that bypassing and cutting out the huge entertainment retail sector from the UK, just so that you can access that film right NOW, would be good for the economy, given the incremental job loss, would lower piracy?

People still shop at those places anyway? I buy all my entertainment products either from online retailers or digitally, and have done for quite some time as well. I'm sure I'm not the only one. It's going to happen at some point, highstreet shopping for this sort of media just isn't appealing to people like myself any more.

The last time I went into a music shop was when I went in and there was no listening booth/listening station, or the vinyl section had been ripped out.
 
I hope Caesium doesn't get some time over this, he is genuinely a nice guy.

Glossing over the fact that "being a nice guy" shouldn't really excuse you from a prison sentence if the crime you have commited warrants one...

I believe this is a civil case rather than a criminal case so there wouldn't be a custodial sentence involved.
 
Oh, I have no problem with large fines for these kind of crimes, especially when there's profit involved. People always know the consequences when they get involved in stuff like that.

But getting equal or more than someone caught dealing or someone that got off with a manslaughter charge is a bit silly. From the FACT website, they seem to love handing out 3 years.

Forgot to mention, it doesn't change the fact that I still thought the guy was dead on and I hope he doesn't get some time. That wouldn't have anything to do with whether the crime warrants one or not. :p
 
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because by doing so, the retail estate that is HMV, all your gaming shops etc..a large portion of our retail economy dies as soon as this happens?

meaning more people unemployed. less people earning money = higher piracy...

Do you think that bypassing and cutting out the huge entertainment retail sector from the UK, just so that you can access that film right NOW, would be good for the economy, given the incremental job loss, would lower piracy?

That's a bit melodramatic isn't it? I mean there's already pay for services that are heading in the right direction, like the BT Vision thing. Sure it's not there yet but eventually a digital distribution method will become a viable choice.

You'll still have the people who'd rather own a physical copy going to the shops, also the shops could sell subscription cards to these services. Similar to a PSN card or xbox points.
 
People still shop at those places anyway? I buy all my entertainment products either from online retailers or digitally, and have done for quite some time as well. I'm sure I'm not the only one. It's going to happen at some point, highstreet shopping for this sort of media just isn't appealing to people like myself any more.

The last time I went into a music shop was when I went in and there was no listening booth/listening station, or the vinyl section had been ripped out.


yes the vast majority do, thats what funds all the free downloads that the geekified masses think themselves entitled to.

i too am a believer that the supply chain is somehow flawed, and that it is the delivery system that helps to propogate piracy. However the issue that we have as a country is that such a large portion of our workforce work in retail based jobs - without thinking up a new set of roles for these people - simply removing their jobs by making the content more easily accessible online wont really benefit us that much.


That's a bit melodramatic isn't it? I mean there's already pay for services that are heading in the right direction, like the BT Vision thing. Sure it's not there yet but eventually a digital distribution method will become a viable choice.

You'll still have the people who'd rather own a physical copy going to the shops, also the shops could sell subscription cards to these services. Similar to a PSN card or xbox points.

well it is and it isnt. sure BT Vision, Virgin plus/ON DEMAND etc all help to bridge this gap. both show films AFTER they have come out on DVD (at least in my experience).
we do have a lot of digital distribution but the distrubution rights always favour retail or seem to currently.

sure u can order the physical copy from the internet too, but like i say when you remove the Retail first attitude and start to undercut them and provide the content digitally first, where does that leave retail entertainment chains?
 
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Hmm - as a infrequent user of newzbin.com it worries me they may be going the way of TPB and may get user lists and start harrasing people if they do indeed win.

Why is this a wrong thing?

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time :p
 
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