FUEL PROTEST

Fuel protests are illegal. I would hate to think the OP was condoning illegal activity.

What do you think would be a reasonable price per litre?

Let's look at one alternative. Fuelling your old, non common rail diesel car on Palm/Vegetable Oil. I for one have a small back garden and no land to grow crops that would be enough to power a car with the said engine. I therefore concur that petrol at the current price is cheaper than me finding, refining, adding additives and being available whenever I need it 24 hours a day.
 
Considering the amount of tax+duty on fuel, it's actually remarkably cheap. I liked that Top Gear episode where they explained that the oil companies were finding, extracting, shipping, refining, transporting and then building petrol stations for something ridiculous like 35p a litre.
 
paradigm said:
Even at £1.26~/litre, fuel is cheap.

So no, I don't particularly care.
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It's the most expensive its ever been, but the price of oil is a lot cheaper than it was near its peak (July / August 08) when the price of oil was over $140 a barrel.
 
Fuel compared to itself is expensive, yes. Compared to everything else and in the grand scheme of things, no.

Bottled water is around £2 per litre, I'd say. Unless you go to Costco.
 
Captain_Slick said:
Fuel compared to itself is expensive, yes. Compared to everything else and in the grand scheme of things, no.

Bottled water is around £2 per litre, I'd say. Unless you go to Costco.
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But with water you have the free option of getting it out the tap, can you get lesser refined petrol for free?
 
Captain_Slick said:
Fuel compared to itself is expensive, yes. Compared to everything else and in the grand scheme of things, no.

Bottled water is around £2 per litre, I'd say. Unless you go to Costco.
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What are you talking about £2 a litre for water? Do you live on Mars?

Deeside Spring water
(2l)
£0.54
(2.7p per 100ml)

From Asda.
 
Ricochet J said:
On a slightly different note, would petroleum prices fall if significant oil of adequate grade is found in the Falklands basin?
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Not this decade.

If you want to reduce your fuel bill, don't bother moaning about a few pence on a litre. That's trivial.

An average 40 mpg car, doing 10,000 miles a year uses 1136 litres, so even a 10p hike only adds an extra £113 on an annual fuel bill of £1300 (based on £1.15/litre).

If however you drove more conservatively, and got 45 mpg rather than 40 mpg, you would save 127 litres or £146!

Likewise if you used your car a little less, just 10% less, leaving the car at home twice a month, working from home, getting on your bike for sub 5 mile trips etc, you'd save £130!

Frankly - I find it ridiculous for people to be complaining about the price of fuel, when they still choose to drive inefficiently (accelerating rapidly, doing 80+ on the motorway etc), still drive ridiculously short trips around town... and finally, choose to buy a car that does less than 40 mpg, or even less than 30 mpg(!) when there are lots of perfectly good cars that do over 50 mpg.

Once you're driving an efficient car, in an efficient way and have cut out unnecessary journeys, then you might have a point about fuel taxation. But until then it just looks stupid to me.
 
PiKe said:
Mine tastes lovely, get yourself a filter tap and stop wasting money on bottled water. Put it towards petrol instead :D
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All the water I consume is boiled to oblivion and then infused with a tea bag. I'm not complaining about petrol prices. Infact, I might throw some money at the counter as a tip next time I get some just for the hell of it.

Edit: Doing 80 on the motorway doesn't decrease MPG.
 
clv101 said:
If however you drove more conservatively, and got 45 mpg rather than 40 mpg, you would save 127 litres or £146!

Likewise if you used your car a little less, just 10% less, leaving the car at home twice a month, working from home, getting on your bike for sub 5 mile trips etc, you'd save £130!

Frankly - I find it ridiculous for people to be complaining about the price of fuel, when they still choose to drive inefficiently (accelerating rapidly, doing 80+ on the motorway etc), still drive ridiculously short trips around town... and finally, choose to buy a car that does less than 40 mpg, or even less than 30 mpg(!) when there are lots of perfectly good cars that do over 50 mpg.

Once you're driving an efficient car, in an efficient way and have cut out unnecessary journeys, then you might have a point about fuel taxation. But until then it just looks stupid to me.
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I do all that and have two cars in the family around the 45-50mpg mark. I never go above 65. Am I allowed to moan about the fuel price?

The current price doesn't worry me as much as the fact that oil is currently cheap. If the price was to start to rise like a year or so ago and it starts costing £65 to fill a small tank in a small eco box, well to me thats a fair bit of my wages each week to consider.
 
Captain_Slick said:
All the water I consume is boiled to oblivion and then infused with a tea bag. I'm not complaining about petrol prices. Infact, I might throw some money at the counter as a tip next time I get some just for the hell of it.

Edit: Doing 80 on the motorway doesn't decrease MPG.
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:D

Yeah 56mph is the optimal speed at which you should drive.
 
Captain_Slick said:
All the water I consume is boiled to oblivion and then infused with a tea bag. I'm not complaining about petrol prices. Infact, I might throw some money at the counter as a tip next time I get some just for the hell of it.

Edit: Doing 80 on the motorway doesn't decrease MPG.
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When I grow up, I want to be as cool as you :cool:
 
clv101 said:
Frankly - I find it ridiculous for people to be complaining about the price of fuel, when they still choose to drive inefficiently (accelerating rapidly, doing 80+ on the motorway etc), still drive ridiculously short trips around town... and finally, choose to buy a car that does less than 40 mpg, or even less than 30 mpg(!) when there are lots of perfectly good cars that do over 50 mpg.
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Really? Not without spending a fat wedge on a new or nearly new eco box, thus destroying the mpg savings. Some of these new TSI engines look pretty clever, but again are only on relatively recent and expensive cars no?

Just to say, I'm not complaining about it. I choose to drive to work, yes its a pain that its cost is going up and up, but its still cheaper and quicker than public transport.
 
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