The Pacific **NEW TRAILER**

simulatorman said:
That was good but having guests around didn’t help, will watch it again tomorrow.
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In cases like this I find a very large stick (vls) helps, when one of the aforementioned guests even looks like they my threaten to speak whack them with the vls, they will soon realise that they should shut up and enjoy the show :D

Must say I enjoyed tonights episodes though as others were saying it was a wee bit confusing with regards to who was who. Definitely looking forward to next week.
 
I thought it was excellent but I also feel that the story was a little too rushed at the start - without really getting to know the characters and forming that relationship they were rushed off to the first battle. I was surprised how quickly it happened. You didn't get the time to form that bond with the characters and they were all trained Marines before you knew it.

Fortunately you sort of know who the three main characters are, and I would imagine the rest of the episodes deal with the character relationships throughout.
 
Tombstone said:
Loved it.

Felt different to BoB, as I'd expect from a different theatre. Havent quite got to grips with who is who yet, but at this stage in BoB I was still getting to grips with the characters.

Found it fascinating and the combat so far different from BoB. Wife loved it too, both really looking forward to the next episode :D
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different but the music and theme are virtually identical in style.

We in Britain have, in general, a rather dismissive attitude to the Pacific war, mostly I feel because (apart from a few clever irregular groups) we were roundly spanked by the Japanese and it really was down to the Americans to win that war almost single handedly and at great cost.
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because the pacific wasnt our main theatre, it was half the world away and inhabitied by an 'inferior' foe, unlike the germans who were literally on our doorstep. with constant reminders - (bombers, V1/V2 rockets) which kept them firmly entrenched in the british mindset as the real enemy.

like they said at the start of the pacific, the pacific was america's war.
 
Nickg said:
different but the music and theme are virtually identical in style.
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Yeah the music was very similar, not that I mind that as I like the music anyway :)

Theme is pretty similar, story follows small group of soldiers through war. Though that pretty much sums up most war themed films, so again I dont mind that :)
 
philstanbridge said:
I thought it was excellent but I also feel that the story was a little too rushed at the start - without really getting to know the characters and forming that relationship they were rushed off to the first battle. I was surprised how quickly it happened. You didn't get the time to form that bond with the characters and they were all trained Marines before you knew it.
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I felt this at first, but its not like the 101st where they were preparing for DDay for months, where the retaliation to pearl harbour happened much faster.

I would feel almost cheated if they kept the style the same as BoB, they had to do something different otherwise we would all be complaining it was the same :)

KaHn
 
Tombstone said:
Yeah the music was very similar, not that I mind that as I like the music anyway :)

Theme is pretty similar, story follows small group of soldiers through war. Though that pretty much sums up most war themed films, so again I dont mind that :)
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ya but it sounds more suited to the western front. like i said earlier in the thread if they used a more suitable pallete / mixed up the music with some more oriental sounding stuff it would have given the show a much more 'Pacific' feel. currently it feels like the band of brothers film/sound crew just flew out to the new setting, and started filming BoB again.

heck even COD WAW did a better job of making you feel like you were in a different theatre of warfare than TP does! plus ive not seen many/any Zeroes yet?

by focusing so heavily on just a squad in the midst of this they are definately missing out on the bigger picture.
 
Nickg said:
ya but it sounds more suited to the western front. like i said earlier in the thread if they used a more suitable pallete / mixed up the music with some more oriental sounding stuff it would have given the show a much more 'Pacific' feel. currently it feels like the band of brothers film/sound crew just flew out to the new setting, and started filming BoB again.

heck even COD WAW did a better job of making you feel like you were in a different theatre of warfare than TP does! plus ive not seen many/any Zeroes yet?

by focusing so heavily on just a squad in the midst of this they are definately missing out on the bigger picture.
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I really dont mind the music, I like it. It doesnt quite fit with the theatre, but I really dont care as I like the music itself anyway.

Yeah I havent seen many zeroes either, but then there hasnt been much opportunity yet for them. I didnt see many Stukas or Me109s in BoB either, so I'm not overly bothered. It does miss out a touch on the bigger picture, but then again I imagine they have to follow the books that its based on and one could also say that BoB missed out on the bigger picture too. Hard to cover all the ins and outs of such huge campaigns as WW2 in 10 episodes.
 
nah but they at least had some kind of german armoured cars - HT's and also a tank focused episode. ill come clean, im a tanker fan. i like tanks, i like to see tanks, and i like to see german tanks.

i dunno, i just dont see anything in TP apart from a lot of generic no face, no name dudes running for no reason straight into an MG...(just like i said pages ago, and my opinion still hasnt changed on that!)...sure that might be how the US saw some of them, but it doesnt mean that they were like that.
 
Nickg said:
nah but they at least had some kind of german armoured cars - HT's and also a tank focused episode. ill come clean, im a tanker fan. i like tanks, i like to see tanks, and i like to see german tanks.

i dunno, i just dont see anything in TP apart from a lot of generic no face, no name dudes running for no reason straight into an MG...(just like i said pages ago, and my opinion still hasnt changed on that!)...sure that might be how the US saw some of them, but it doesnt mean that they were like that.
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Hehe, well certainly as a tanker fan you arent going to get along with The Pacific. Armour wasnt exactly a massive factor in Pacific battles :D
 
Nickg said:
BUT they did use tanks, mainly in a flame thrower variant of the sherman - yet ive not seen a single flamethrower (maybe in ep1) let alone a flame tank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ronson_flame_tank_Iwo_Jima.jpg

iwo jima!!!
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True...

But then again, they did use Panzer I, Panzer II, King Tigers, Maus, Cromwell, Churchill, Cornwell, M3, M5, Crab Tank, Twaby Tank and more, and I didnt see one of those in BoB. :)

In a series covering (any) aspect of WW2, be it western front, eastern front, african, naval, air or the Pacific, its not surprising if we dont see a particular type of hardware/event in 10 episodes.

I havent read the books, but for all I know the guys who the books are done by were never involved in a battle which included flamethrowing tanks, which would explain why there is no episode with them in. Maybe someone who has read the books could clear that up.
 
was the maus ever built?

but regardless there was still homage to the type of weapon, i.e tanks in BoB, but then nothing similar in the pacific.

i dunno, i guess ive seen more of australian life than war in the pacific, or thats how it seems.
 
Nickg said:
was the maus ever built?

but regardless there was still homage to the type of weapon, i.e tanks in BoB, but then nothing similar in the pacific.

i dunno, i guess ive seen more of australian life than war in the pacific, or thats how it seems.
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Yup they built 2 of them, never saw proper combat though.

Didnt see many Subs in BoB either :D

Maybe you have to put aside your hankering for a tankering and watch the series for aspects other than armoured combat. (or rent the movie Battle of Kursk instead :D )
 
Visuals and sound were superb but the way it's scripted so far isn't that good. Was very rushed, jumping scenes all the time too quickly. Also there wasn't enough background story to the main characters, which I would have liked. I'll keep watching it though and see how it goes.
 
Nickg said:
because the pacific wasnt our main theatre.................

like they said at the start of the pacific, the pacific was america's war.
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Tell that to the British and Commonwealth forces fighting on the Indian border, Burma & Malaya, those captured in Hong Kong and Singapore, those who lost their lives during the sinking of Force Z, the men who built the Death Railway.

From a very early period in 1941 Britain realised it could not hold on to it's possesions in the Far East (A large chunk of our Empire was in this area) and the commercial value that was held within it (Malaya alone supplied large amounts of tin and rubber). Our much vaunted Navy which was in the past our main deterrent in the region was out-manoeuvred, out-gunned and out-fought by a Navy with a far more 'modern' attitude in it's use of air power.

The campaign in North Africa was as equally a distant war (not in physical miles but in terms of the exotic locations people only saw the names of on maps) but we won that one so the people and places are British folklore. Yet in the Far East Our empire crumbled and we were helpless to do anything about it, the people, press and government of Britain after the war effectively wrote it out of our psyche.
 
Tell that to the British and Commonwealth forces fighting on the Indian border, Burma & Malaya, those captured in Hong Kong and Singapore, those who lost their lives during the sinking of Force Z, the men who built the Death Railway.
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i am not saying that we did not have a presence there,

but i dont think it was our primary focus. that is the difference here that i am trying to make.

but yes obviously we will mull over our victories more than our losses. we take about D Day a lot but not much about the expaditionary force getting kicked out at dunkirk!
 
Slims forces in Burma did their bit in World War 2, but it can be argued that their presence did little to contribute to the downfall of the Japanese Empire.

There was a Cromwell Tank in BoB.

I would imagine there are very tanks mentioned in the Iwo Jima episode, vry few made it off the 'beaches', those that did got bogged down in the ash and picked off by artillery. Maybe later in the capaign, but the terrain on Iwo was almost impassable for tanks.

Similarly for Okinawa and its horrendous mudbaths.
 
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