Can an OC HD5870 beat a GTX 480??

Cyber-Mav · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:22

no amount of overclocking will help the 5870 to beat the 480gtx:

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the 5970 can barley hold its own against the 480, so the 5870 has no chance.

Mr Paul · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:30

In that game, correct.

But there are quite a few other games that OC the 5870 would.

Mr Fujisawa · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:34

there is only one bench, i think from that same site, that compares cod:mw2 with OC 480 and 1ghx 5870, 5870 wins.

Valleyman · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:36

Cyber-mav's post is a cheap shot.

You could cherry pick results at specific settings and resolutions to show that the 5870 beats the 480GTX without overlocking. The 480GTX is approx 10-15% faster than the 5870 on average, no-one is denying that. The 5870 is easily overclockable to those levels.

Jesus, I have a 480GTX on order so am in no way in the red camp, but I don't feel the need to bolster the green team with BS.

yougotowned · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:38

Mr Paul said:
Yes it is. read the [H] review of Metro33 performance.

wat are you talking about look

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/04/05/metro_2033_directx_11_gameplay_performance_iq/4

480 owns the 5870 with aa on

the 470 owns the 5850

the 470 is using very high settings and the 5850 is using just high and still gets owned.

the 470 has just 1 fps less in avg fps less than the 5870 at the same settings so.

and if you made this abit more tessellation heavy you'd see the 470 fly past the 5870 while waving good bye

Cyber-Mav · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:45

its not only hardocp that confirms that the 5870 is useless in metro2033

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as you can see overclocking is not going to help.

the OP's question was regarding if a OC'd 5870 can beat a gtx480, i believe he has his answer now. the gtx480 cant be beat by any other single gpu solution on the market as of today, (06-04-2010)

Lightnix · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:47

Cyber-Mav said:
no amount of overclocking will help the 5870 to beat the 480gtx:

the 5970 can barley hold its own against the 480, so the 5870 has no chance.

Yeah in this limited, totally non-cherry picked set of benchmarks the 5870 could never beat the GTX 480! No bias here! Not going to look at averages or anything!

yougotowned · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:49

lol nice one

cyber finally not along in this forum you see as i do that nvidia will rape ati in next gen (dx11 games)

yougotowned · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:52

Lightnix said:
Yeah in this limited, totally non-cherry picked set of benchmarks the 5870 could never beat the GTX 480! No bias here! Not going to look at averages or anything!

it still could never beat it at very high at 1920x1200

which is what a gamer would want to play at

Mr Paul · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:56

yougotowned said:
wat are you talking about look

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/04/05/metro_2033_directx_11_gameplay_performance_iq/4

480 owns the 5870 with aa on

the 470 owns the 5850

the 470 is using very high settings and the 5850 is using just high and still gets owned.

the 470 has just 1 fps less in avg fps less than the 5870 at the same settings so.

and if you made this abit more tessellation heavy you'd see the 470 fly past the 5870 while waving good bye

I'm not talking about raw numbers, I'm talking about the % performance hit with any form of tessellation enabled, both cards are similar. I would post the link but [H] is banned here from work.

Mr Paul · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:57

Cyber-Mav said:
its not only hardocp that confirms that the 5870 is useless in metro2033

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as you can see overclocking is not going to help.

the OP's question was regarding if a OC'd 5870 can beat a gtx480, i believe he has his answer now. the gtx480 cant be beat by any other single gpu solution on the market as of today, (06-04-2010)

We can all post cherry picked benches

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Mr Paul · 6 Apr 2010 at 14:59

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rounddodger · 6 Apr 2010 at 15:00

yougotowned said:
lol nice one

cyber finally not along in this forum you see as i do that nvidia will rape ati in next gen (dx11 games)

Can you type that in english?

Mr Fujisawa · 6 Apr 2010 at 15:04

rounddodger said:
Can you type that in english?

He said, has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

yougotowned · 6 Apr 2010 at 15:21

ive looked and worked out the 480 is preforming over 25% better on avg in tessalation than 5870 and up to 40% better at max fps.
according to the H review.

i think its always best to do the sums

Kharbyne · 6 Apr 2010 at 15:24

Ofc it will but there isnt really a need to OC a 5870

yougotowned · 6 Apr 2010 at 15:25

Mr Paul said:
We can all post cherry picked benches

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this is fake as it is not at max quality

heres a bench that shows max quality
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-480-review/25

there are settings ati players cant enable

and shows the 470 matching the 5870 at 60 with settings ati can handle

and the benches are fishy the 470 can match the 5870 on guru3d at same settings and yet here the 480 cant keep up

and since guru3d has never lied about its review ......

rounddodger · 6 Apr 2010 at 15:33

yougotowned said:
this is fake as it is not at max quality

heres a bench that shows max quality
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-480-review/25

there are settings ati players cant enable

and shows the 470 matching the 5870 at 60 with settings ati can handle

and the benches are fishy the 470 can match the 5870 on guru3d at same settings and yet here the 480 cant keep up

and since guru3d has never lied about its review ......

Cheers for that, very interesting stuff.

queamin · 6 Apr 2010 at 15:36

yougotowned said:
lol nice one

cyber finally not along in this forum you see as i do that nvidia will rape ati in next gen (dx11 games)

They better come out before ati refresh then

Mr Paul · 6 Apr 2010 at 15:44

yougotowned said:
this is fake as it is not at max quality

heres a bench that shows max quality
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-480-review/25

there are settings ati players cant enable

and shows the 470 matching the 5870 at 60 with settings ati can handle

and the benches are fishy the 470 can match the 5870 on guru3d at same settings and yet here the 480 cant keep up

and since guru3d has never lied about its review ......

Guru3D are a known "in nVidias pocket" website, so don't believe all you read