I specifically said same "era"; the M5 engine was available in 1998, not exactly a thousand years from the 1996 of the SVT Cobra.There wasn't a V8 M5 available in 1996...
As I mentioned before, the M62B44 is an intentionally de-tuned engined.
What, detuned just like American V8s!? In 1965 you could walk outside of your local Chevy dealer with the keys to a 300BHP Nova with the power coming from a 5.4L V8.
In 1982 The Trans AM was available with a 165BHP 5.7L V8... Do you think the GM engineers just forgot how to design engines, or do you believe that the engines available in just about every american car since the 1970s has bee serverely detuned to meet emissions laws?
In 1965 they were using the SAE gross horsepower rating. This was a, excuse the pun, "grossly overrated" measure of the engine's power. In the early 70s they changed to the SAE net horsepower rating. The difference between these two ratings is massive - some engines that achieved 400 HP before the change to net produced 235 HP after the change. The Chevrolet Nova did not have 300 HP by any of today's standards.
Every American car since the 1970s has had to meet emissions requirements and be measured using a power rating that is remotely reasonable i.e. the engine is expected to have the exhaust attached, which it wasn't for SAE gross, and they can't have big "road simulation" compressors forcing air in to the engine. If you look at the power figures for American engines just before the early 70s you'll see that they are mentally overrated.
Because power relative to engine capacity is the whole purpose of this debate?What is "power efficiency"? Why do you seem to think specific power output so important at these large engine sizes?
From the opening post - a question of why American engines don't seem to produce much horsepower for their size.granted its 80s but still How did they manage to make 216 horsepower out of a 5.7 litre v8?
We are talking about power efficiency in terms of per unit of cylinder capacity. This is flagrantly obvious from reading the thread.Sorry old chap, but what the hell, did you just make up your own measure of efficiency? It doesnt fly!
What about other variables? How much fuel it uses? The type and gearing of the transmission? etc
Americans do have premium fuel. You can get premium fuel at the pumps that is as good as ours, short of special fuels such as BP Ultimate 102, which you can of course still get somewhere if you are willing to pay. Lum explains it in more detail.yeah but the americans dont do premium fuel
stated power outputs allow them to use crap fuel in their expensive performance cars i believe. Maybe one of our resident experts can confirm / deny.
I know that modern BMW ratings are based upon them needing 97RON fuel as thats what it states in the manual, but i'm led to believe its different in the US and they dont require them to run super ?
The reality that American engines generally produce less power per litre than European engines is undeniable.