Ending a tenancy agreement

What ihe point in an end date of the lease then? It appears this has already been covered but surely this is your biggest argument?
it's not an end point, unless it's a fixed term, just like mobile phones/sky/virgin and the rest it is just the earliest date you can end the contract. You do not sign a new one, it just rolls over.
 
Does it really not state anywhere the terms of the lease after the initial 12 months? The 2 month clause clearly relates to the initial period from your post above, but there should definitely be some clarification as to notice periods therafter.
 
We are talking an overlap of around a month, unless he rents Buckingham Palace its the kind of thing he's better to absorb and quit moaning about..

Sadly it's far from Buckingham palace, but when your brother owes you just under £2k in rent and bills, and you just want to get away from it all and start afresh, having to pay your share, his share and then a third lot of rent, isn't really an ideal situation
 
Sadly it's far from Buckingham palace, but when your brother owes you just under £2k in rent and bills, and you just want to get away from it all and start afresh, having to pay your share, his share and then a third lot of rent, isn't really an ideal situation

I think you are stuck unless there is further clarification re the notice after the initial 12 month period. It does clearly say 2 months to be fair to it from the extract above.
 
Does it really not state anywhere the terms of the lease after the initial 12 months? The 2 month clause clearly relates to the initial period from your post above, but there should definitely be some clarification as to notice periods therafter.

I've just gone through it once more, and there's nothing in there about the end of the tenecy, aside from on the first page stating that the "Expiration Date" is the 29th of April, the only parts that discuss what happens after the contract ends, are in relation to disputes about the deposit

It states as part of my direct debit for the rent, that I must cancel it at the end fof the tenancy as direct debits keep going till you tell them to stop obviously, but aside from this, there's nothing in any of the paperwork stating that we will be automatically moved onto another contract at the end of the agreement
 
It is now rolling then with the notice period mentioned. Can you not put off the tanancy of the new place by a month and postpone the move?
 
My tenancy agreement has the exact same stipulation (bar the start and end dates obviously).

The 2 month notice is for when terminating within the 12 months (only doable after 6), and after the 12 months we can bugger off without need for notice. No where does the agreement state that a rolling contract or assumption of a renewal is there, once the agreement expires, we can leave and get our deposits back.

As I am leaving early though, I did write in with 2 months notice.
 
It is now rolling then with the notice period mentioned. Can you not put off the tanancy of the new place by a month and postpone the move?

Well, at the moment, the idea is to move down to portsmouth, get a transfer with my current employer, I need to phone the place I'll be moving to, talk to the manager and explain the situation, hopefully they'll keep the opening for another two months, I haven't finalised anything in regards to moving down there yet, as I didn't want to get stuck with 2 lots of rent etc, it's more a case of wanting to get out of here as soon as possible as it's not been great for my health, nor my wallet :p
 
Portsmouth from the Thames Valley, rather you than me mate :p Sounds like a terrible move location wise!
 
You been to Bracknell? I'd take Beirut over Bracknell :p

Went to uni in Portsmouth, all my friends are there, it's got the seafront, more night-life, more career prospects
 
You pay via Direct Debt? ....Why? They have permission to raise that amount if they want where as with a Standing Order you are in full control.
 
You been to Bracknell? I'd take Beirut over Bracknell :p

Went to uni in Portsmouth, all my friends are there, it's got the seafront, more night-life, more career prospects

Bracknell is not exactly a shining example, but move slightly north of reading and you are in possibly the nicest area in the UK (Henley/Marlow/Wallingford/Oxford etc). Career prospects are huge in the thames valley and you have a <30min train into the city every few mins.

Not sure i understand your logic, but good luck to you :p
 
Get down the CAB and get some formal advice ASAP!

It's been many years since I rented but my contracts back then were for a fixed period and then explicitly turned into rolling contracts with notice either way.

Personally I'd say, if your contract states a start date and end date and nothing about becoming a rolling contract after that end date AND they've sent you a new contract to sign for, presumably, another year, then I think you have no obligations beyond the end date and neither do they... what else is an end date for?
 
OK, so CAB were very helpful and friendly, at first glance, he was on the same understanding as most of us, there was a start date and an end date, and that was it, but appanrelty they've had to deal with this sort of thing a number of times, and the guy asked the person who'd dealt with it the most, and basically from what I am to understand, *because* they've put the clause in about having to give notice about leaving the property, we still have to, we couldn't give notice in the first 4 months, and any notice wouldn't allow us to leave within the first 6 months, but because it says we have to give notice of 2 months (regardless of the end of the contract) we still have to

It's not ideal, but there's nothing that can be done about it really without endangering the deposit, which we would really quite like back :p

so many thanks for all the info and input, helped a lot with my argument, I now know for future endeavours, live and learn :)
 
Just tell them you are moving out and serve your notice... are you really that shy/scared that you are going through all this hassle, just because you can't even send them a simple email/letter?
 
Just tell them you are moving out and serve your notice... are you really that shy/scared that you are going through all this hassle, just because you can't even send them a simple email/letter?

He was just trying to avoid having to pay 2 full months when he only wants to live there for one more. It was not that he is unwilling to terminate the contract correctly.:)
 
Fair play.. however, it still strikes odd that you just aren't willing to talk to the landlord/agent.

Failing all of the above, just move out and post the keys through the letter box.
 
Fair play.. however, it still strikes odd that you just aren't willing to talk to the landlord/agent.

Failing all of the above, just move out and post the keys through the letter box.

We had spoken to them, they were expecting us to continue for the next year, I'm about to send the letter stating we'll be moving out in 2 months, as par with the agreement
 
We had spoken to them, they were expecting us to continue for the next year, I'm about to send the letter stating we'll be moving out in 2 months, as par with the agreement

Wish i could find tenants this gullible.....

Have you told them you are moving out at the end of the month and are they now saying you need to give 2 months notice and trying to hold you to it.

As a landlord i take it as my responsibility to find out if tenants are staying on at the end of their agreement, and to find alternative tenants so there is no empty period in the house.
 
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