Street Fighter (SFIV, SSFIV, HDR)
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out of interest, how many people actually uses a pad for this?
i for one is one of them and i must say its quite hard to get the fadc right, especially i set the 3*punch and kick button to l1 and 2...i also found the charge ultra quite hard to do, but thats until i start using the negative-edge technique...so out of my curiosity how does a pad compare to a stick in terms of execution and what advantage does the stick actually holds?
i for one is one of them and i must say its quite hard to get the fadc right, especially i set the 3*punch and kick button to l1 and 2...i also found the charge ultra quite hard to do, but thats until i start using the negative-edge technique...so out of my curiosity how does a pad compare to a stick in terms of execution and what advantage does the stick actually holds?
Been waiting for this. Thanks K will take a look.
Crosses fingers!
EDIT: Ok Im nursing a semi.. (so far).
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I dont get it... you were able to EX-flash after down-toward hardkick. I hope he means we can use normal flash kick as well by the "etc" ?
Also you were able to backfist after a sonic in sf4... I dont get this... (unless he is talking about cancelling into a backfist?)
Kreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee help!
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Yeah, he'll be much better if you can do some of those 10 hit combo's.
For SFIV there's not much difference, it's not execution heavy.
For SFIV there's not much difference, it's not execution heavy.
you can do a 2 hit combo by firing a light sonic boom and follow it. you can usually combo with heavy kick or punch if close enough, or combo with backfist if your opponent is in corner.
But what Im saying is you can do this before, whats new this time round?
As Kreeeee said, SF4 is not that execution heavy so you can still be pretty damn good with a pad, especially a PS3 pad or the madcatz SF4 pad.
I was a pad only player myself but forced myself to learn a stick, it took me a good few weeks but it's worth it in the end. I find it more fun playing the game with a stick tbh, and also some things which I found difficult with a pad I find 'easier' with a stick. From someone who thought he would never be able to use a stick, my advice is get one and just keep practising with it.
As Kreeeee said, SF4 is not that execution heavy so you can still be pretty damn good with a pad, especially a PS3 pad or the madcatz SF4 pad.
I was a pad only player myself but forced myself to learn a stick, it took me a good few weeks but it's worth it in the end. I find it more fun playing the game with a stick tbh, and also some things which I found difficult with a pad I find 'easier' with a stick. From someone who thought he would never be able to use a stick, my advice is get one and just keep practising with it.
i think i tried using a stick once and i failed pretty bad and ended up going back to the pad, but finding a good one is pretty tough...any suggestion?
It's way more comfortable to hit multiple buttons on an arcade stick than it is a pad as you can use fingers to hit multiples instead of your thumb. (and I am including the fightpads!)
I think this helps a lot when doing focus cancelling and using Vipers cancels.
Controlling movement with your wrist on a stick is also more accurate than using your thumb on a dpad.
Edit: SFIV is just not that strict on fireball and uppercut motions, aside from that it's still execution heavy I think.
I think this helps a lot when doing focus cancelling and using Vipers cancels.
Controlling movement with your wrist on a stick is also more accurate than using your thumb on a dpad.
Edit: SFIV is just not that strict on fireball and uppercut motions, aside from that it's still execution heavy I think.
i am pretty sure i got hit by that a few times before on sf4
i use a 360 pad and i actually find moves harder to do on a ps3 pad, i always ended up pressing the back trigger accentually because of the way i sit.
personally i find moves on sf4 easier to execute than any other sf game other than capcom vs series. anyway doing the fadc isnt too hard...the hard part is following that up with the ultra using the left trigger/button...
I said that
SFIV is not strict on your basic fireball/dp/half circle motions, it's one of the reasons I started practicing on Super Turbo (I have that original Xbox version) it's so much more strict and less margin for error, quite good for practicing motions on. I messed around on 3S too but that game feels weird, I find it harder to do supers on that than on ST. :/ (original ST not HDR)I'm glad I don't use the shortcuts in IV though because it would be weird going to other games, I think it's very awkward to use down forward down forward to get an uppercut to come out, it just feels weird in combos.
I can do it on a 360 pad but it's just uncomfortable and awkward, same with the fightpads too.
Like I said though I just think the stick is arguably more suitable and comfortable for the task at hand. It just won't teach you fundamentals and instantly make you able to do combos.
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It's not really, cmk to dp is just df+mk df+hp rather than d.mk f d df+p in other SF games. The timing on all combo's is a lot more lenient too.
The game was designed to work fine with a pad (PS2 pad anyway), and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I think the bread and butters for the characters also in ST are a lot easier on IV but there's still a lot of high execution combos in the game. Simple things such as j.mk > cr.mk > hadouken are a lot harder in ST/HDR than they are in IV though, for sure.
I bought a madcatz SE stick, used it for a week, hated it and sold it.
About a month or so later I tried again, I bought another stick, again it was a madcatz SE but it was modded with sanwa parts and it had a sanwa octagonal gate. This time for some reason I just got on better with it, and further down the line I ended up selling it and buying a TE stick which is very good!
If you use charge characters you should be fine on the square gate, if you use the shoto chars you may prefer an octo gate like me. Eventually though, regardless of skill level, if you play enough with a stick you will get use to it. I was genuinely convinced I could never play SF on a stick, it was always a pad for me, ever since the SF2 days on the SNES.
That is truly awful for SF4.
Buy a TE stick, and just get practising. I think Viper is more complicated than anything in ST that I've seen.
Try guile.