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Wil my PC be ok for a 5970?

Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway at
e8400 52 = fps
qx6770 = 65 fps
i7 965 = 74 fps
22 fps difference between the cpu used at 2560x1600

Farcry 2 you get 52 fps with the duo 75 fps with the qx and 83 fps with the i7 thats with the games maxed out at 2560x1600.
 
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That's a jump from a mid range dual to a very high range quad during tri SLI...

We're talking about dual GPU's here and the OP has a fine quad core already.
 
metalmackey said:
So I should get a new CPU, mobo and RAM first then?
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Not really saying that but the only differance you would see in current games is afew more FPS

Ofc you get DX11 support
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but the £600 you would spend on the card you would get faster everyday use from the system and more FPS anyways it's not like the 4870x2 isnt cutting edge you could easy wait it out till ATI refresh there line.

Just looking at it from a differant angle. :)
 
A 5970 gfx card is as fast as a couple of 4870x2 cards and his quad core will bottleneck it.

I spent all day yesterday doing benchmarks when my new 5870 arrived and found out my xfire was bottlenecked badly with my i7 930 at stock clocks and from owning a qx6800 in the past i know my i7 at stock clocks is as fast as my old qx6800 when that was clocked at 3.8 gig.

Its only when i overclocked my i7 to 3.6 and above i started to see the benefit of adding the other 5870.
 
What I'd do :)

1) Sell 4870x2
2) Buy 5850 and clock it nicely (it'll kick the 4870x2's ass but save on the ele bill and give you DX11 etc)
3) Save for the next gen of GPU's and Hexcore processors next year.
 
We arn't really debating that a 5870/5970 is faster then a 4870x2 it's more along the lines of the 4870x2 isnt currently being pushed to it's limits and the mans weaker part of his system is the Cpu

he clearly has £600 which would get him a 930 @4Ghz which is a far better way to invest his money into the system since he would Gain USB3 SATA 3.0 etc all the new tech.

Rather then spend £570 on a 5970 so current games go from 100 FPS to 150FPS because you won't tell the differance therefore the money is better spent on other aspects of the computer!

I was in a simlar situlation of my E5200 @ 3.6Ghz.. upgrade the video card or cpu.. i did the Cpu to whats in the Sig and i gained 30% to 60% more FPS and windows flys also GTA4 runs miles better(yer yer its optimized for quads but thats the point im making here).. :)
 
A QX6850 isn't a weak link o.O

You're upgrade did wonders for your system because you had mid range dual core and you went to a very high range quad.

~£50 + his 4870x2 will get him a 5850 which will hold it's own nicely but more importantly it'll hold it's value better so that when he goes to upgrade his rig he's in a better position to do so.

6 core CPU's are only round the corner and ATI has a refresh coming soon (or perhaps even just the 6000 series at the end of the year)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

**EDIT: if you've no need for DX11 I'd hold off till the next series of cards/games is out :)
 
reiyushin said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2841/17

Every review I've read concludes the 5870 > 4870x2 :)

the 5850 can be clocked to the 5870's speeds and lose little to it in the way of performance :)
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And when you go to the next page the 4870x2 is faster

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2841/18

ive got a 4870x2 and 5870s and spent plenty of time playing games and benching them

Dx9 nuthing in it and dx10 the 5870 just edges it.

Thats my cards my rig my games.

A 5850 will not kick the ass of a 4870x2 even a overclocked 5850.
 
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johny dolan said:
Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway at
e8400 52 = fps
qx6770 = 65 fps
i7 965 = 74 fps
22 fps difference between the cpu used at 2560x1600

Farcry 2 you get 52 fps with the duo 75 fps with the qx and 83 fps with the i7 thats with the games maxed out at 2560x1600.
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http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x4-965-be-revision-c3-review-test/16

You do realise the SAME SITE shows the i7 LOSING at high res in the SAME GAME.

Hence my statement that that site has been talking out of its behind for several years.

Also thats the EXACT review I was talking about, they've since gone back and added in a last gen quad due to the MASSIVE amount of crap they took for writing such a terrible review.

The review was initially done without the previous quad, and it was saying how much of a massive boost the i7 was in architecture over last gen, because of how badly it beat the last generation, not pointing out very much that it was dual vs quad core.

Guru3d + reviews = awful

Sorry but you're talking rubbish, a quad core that can clock to a half decent speed will NOT bottleneck any setup unless you run at a low res and detail level, you do not buy a 5970, and run it at 1280x1024, or even 1680x1050, unless you're kind of a dope.

Every single review out there will show smeg all difference between an i7 and a P2, and theres really VERY little in a P2 and an C2D based quad.

Keep in mind that the few places it will be bottlenecked, you're talking about having 100fps in an older game, and being limited from getting to 150fps, WHO THE HELL CARES.

You buy a top end card to go from 30fps to 60fps in a game like Metro with everything at full(even though you actually shouldn't, tesselation and DOF look like turd and it runs so much better, and looks better without them, DOF especially). In Metro, as you've seen linked, there is no difference between a 2Ghz P2, and a 4Ghz i7. Infact, the 2Ghz P2, gives a higher FPS than the 4GHz i7, if you want to get really technical.
 
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