Poll: Which party will get your vote in the General Election?

[britboy4321]

When has Cameron ever implied this is the case? He has never, ever strayed from the message of "That state will be there if you have genuine need".

He will badly worsen the state safety net, meaning more people will fall through.

This one is all about the definition of 'genuine need'. The conservative definition of 'genuine need' won't include for example people with serious handicaps/disability that happen coincedentally to have a 'good day' when they are being assessed. Those people have to kind of 'pull themselves together' on a bad day and get it to work despite the fact they are having a seizure, because they didn't have one 2 days ago when being assessed. Nice.

He won't say it directly of course so the thickos think it's possible for him to take money away from the state magically without services being affected (!! lol?)


Why do you think they are called 'the nasty party'? It's not just for fun you know!

 

[Hatter The Mad]

He will badly worsen the state safety net, meaning more people will fall through.

Speculation without basis

The conservative definition of 'genuine need' won't include for example people with serious handicaps/disability that happen coincedentally to have a 'good day' when they are being assessed.

Speculation without basis

Why do you think they are called 'the nasty party'? It's not just for fun you know!

Because of thickos like you who paint an outdated, sterotyped picture onto them? Speculation without basis.

 

[britboy4321]

Speculation without basis


Speculation without basis


Because of thickos like you who paint an outdated, sterotyped picture onto them? Speculation without basis.

Learn more. Society should look after it's weak. To screw them over so the strong can be stronger is lame, and selfish.

Believe it or not, you could need help from society at some point.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

Learn more. Society should look after it's weak. To screw them over so the strong can be stronger is lame, and selfish.

Believe it or not, you could need help from society at some point.

I 10000000% agree with you.

But again, you've shown be nothing that says Cameron believes society shouldn't look after the weak, or that his government will end up abandoning the weak.

So again, any source or basis to your speculation?

 

[Glaucus]

Learn more. Society should look after it's weak. To screw them over so the strong can be stronger is lame, and selfish.

Believe it or not, you could need help from society at some point.

and the help is there and will remain there.

 

[robgmun]

Unless of course you are incapable of looking after yourself or for example live in a deprived area with no opportunities, at which point the message seems to be

GO SUFFER, WHO CARES? SOCIETY WILL LEAVE YOU TO ROT.

what a beautiful society they offer

When did it become acceptable to be selfish?

you obviously not watching the manifesto launch, otherwise you'll realise you are completely wrong.

 

[britboy4321]

and the help is there and will remain there.

Only if Labour get back in.

The cornerstone of the entire tory party principle is to reduce the help. It's fundermentally what they stand for. It's precisely, exactly, their thing.

[apart from the very bottom 5%] Screw the weak, the poor, the disabled, the people who need help (apart from an extremely small % of them). Give the money we save to the people who arn't desperate so they can spend it on blu-ray players. That's the bottom line. Reward people who can work or who have had money given to them. That's the gig.

It doesn't matter who you vote for, but at least be honest with yourself - a vote for the tories is a selfish vote. It's a 'I'm alright Jack and I want more money, who cares about you' vote.

Always has been. It's the cornerstone of all right wing parties worldwide.

 

[robgmun]

you are completely wrong

Is it really that painful to watch the tories? I sat down and watched the Labour thing from begining to end yesterday so that i am informed.

 

[Glaucus]

That is not what they are about at all. They aren't screwing anyone. They have a much fairer policy.
They are not suggesting getting rid of state help at all.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

Only if Labour get back in.

Speculation without basis. Unfounded stereotyping. We're in 2010, not 1970.

The cornerstone of the entire tory party principle is to reduce the help. It's fundermentally (sic) what they stand for. It's precisely, exactly, their thing.

Speculation without basis.

It doesn't matter who you vote for, but at least be honest with yourself - a vote for the tories is a selfish vote. It's a 'I'm alright Jack and I want more money, who cares about you' vote.

Speculation without basis.

Always has been. It's the cornerstone of all right wing parties worldwide.

Labour are also right-wing. Does that make you selfish?

 

[britboy4321]

Just ask someone neutral, that you trust - not me - which party is more likely to reduce state help - the tories or Labour.

Hell, ask your local tory candidate! They pride themselves on it!

Lower tax, less state help.

Seriously, only the thickos think 'less taxes, state services magically unchanged'. And I'm not joking when I say ask your tory candidate. Will you believe him?

 

[Glaucus]

less state help is not a bad thing it is a good thing and certainly does not mean people who need it will surfer.
What it will mean is people who do not need it will actually have to provide for themselves.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

Just ask someone neutral, that you trust - not me - which party is more likely to reduce state help - the tories or Labour.

You're talking to an ex Labour voter.

Lower tax, less state help.

Lower taxes, smaller state. State only provides services where the market cannot be trusted to do so fairly/reliably/indiscriminatory.

Labour are also right-wing. Does that make you selfish?

 

[aardvark]

Only if Labour get back in.

The cornerstone of the entire tory party principle is to reduce the help. It's fundermentally what they stand for. It's precisely, exactly, their thing.

[apart from the very bottom 5%] Screw the weak, the poor, the disabled, the people who need help (apart from an extremely small % of them). Give the money we save to the people who arn't desperate so they can spend it on blu-ray players. That's the bottom line. Reward people who can work or who have had money given to them. That's the gig.

It doesn't matter who you vote for, but at least be honest with yourself - a vote for the tories is a selfish vote. It's a 'I'm alright Jack and I want more money, who cares about you' vote.

Always has been. It's the cornerstone of all right wing parties worldwide.

nonsense.

 

[britboy4321]

Labour are also right-wing. Does that make you selfish?

No

 

[Hatter The Mad]

No

Double standards, much?

 

[britboy4321]

Double standards, much?

No

 

[robgmun]

yes

 

[britboy4321]

yes

I think your sig. is true.

 

[meghatronic]

Only if Labour get back in.

The cornerstone of the entire tory party principle is to reduce the help. It's fundermentally what they stand for. It's precisely, exactly, their thing.

[apart from the very bottom 5%] Screw the weak, the poor, the disabled, the people who need help (apart from an extremely small % of them). Give the money we save to the people who arn't desperate so they can spend it on blu-ray players. That's the bottom line. Reward people who can work or who have had money given to them. That's the gig.

It doesn't matter who you vote for, but at least be honest with yourself - a vote for the tories is a selfish vote. It's a 'I'm alright Jack and I want more money, who cares about you' vote.

Always has been. It's the cornerstone of all right wing parties worldwide.

I can only assume this post is satire. So, LOL