Poll: Which party will get your vote in the General Election?

[Andy_82]

I would agree with Dolph, the Lib dem manifesto is even further left than labour, certainly not what i'd call liberal. I was considering voting for them but wont now. I also find 7.8% support for the BNP is scary, I dread to think what this country would be like if they were in charge.

 

[Dolph]

It's not insulting. I thought it was kinda' cool.

Perhaps, but it's utterly irrelevant to my position. Little things like my support for a guaranteed minimum income kind of suggest it.

Ironically in the states it is actually an insult to call someone a 'Liberal' you know? Or more commonly over there a 'bleeding heart liberal'. Very bizarre considering their countries foundations ..

That's because, bizarrely, liberal in the US is associated with state control of the kind you normally espouse, whereas liberalism in the UK is something of a different proposition, at least classical liberalism is.

 

[MrMoonX]

I think the lib dem manifesto is the only one with any substance and actual policies the lab and tory one is just full of BS, spin and soundbites!

 

[Hatter The Mad]

and tory one is just full of BS, spin and soundbites!

Any evidence to back that up? Have you actually read either?

 

[mollymoo]

I think the lib dem manifesto is the only one with any substance and actual policies the lab and tory one is just full of BS, spin and soundbites!

I find it hard to believe that you don't associate "BS, spin and soundbites!" with all of the parties manifestos.

It's all "BS, spin and soundbites!" you may aswell flip a coin to be honest.

 

[MrMoonX]

Any evidence to back that up? Have you actually read either?

yes ive read all three now thank you very much, the tory one is all about empowering the people which basically if you dont like it we will privatise it! I really dont think the labour one says anything new.

im not saying the lib dem one is perfect because it isnt but its the best of the three

 

[daz]

The lib dems manifesto is out, and it's confirmed I'm definitely not voting for them.

they seem to have completely forgotten what Liberal actually means, or that it's part of their name.

Absolutely agreed.

They seem to be anti-business - not just big "corporate" business but small, lifeblood of the UK business, trying to squeeze every last ounce of entrepreneurial spirit from the country.

Policies like increasing capital gains such that they're taxed in the same way as normal income makes you wonder do they want people and businesses to succeed in the UK?

The best way to increase tax take is to help everyone become more prosperous, which seems to be the approach the Conservatives are taking. Encouraging investment in business, giving tax breaks to small businesses and start-ups etc.

 

[taz488]

lib dems: no more nuclear power stations, loadsa money to wind farms, allowing 16 year olds to vote!? = not getting my vote

conservatives: wouldnt trust camron as for as i could throw him, toff, resort to negative advertising campaign = never getting my vote

labour: seem to have the most sensible ideas, and i agree with most of them = getting my vote

 

[atpbx]

Frustrated Middleclass males?

People who work for a living?

 

[atpbx]

labour: seem to have the most sensible ideas, and i agree with most of them = getting my vote

What?
Is your reasoning that Labour have engineered the complete collapse of the UK economy, judicial system, immigration system and completely malfunctioning public sector and in doing so, only they know how to put it back together as they wrote down how all the pieces went as they were going along ?

We've already seen that Gordon can barely write, and remember he is the "best one" of the idiots sat at the top table of the country.
I doubt most of them know which way up a pen goes to be honest.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

Wall Street Journal slates Tony Blair's lack of interest and economic incompetence, letting "Brown run wild":

http://blogs.wsj.com/iainmartin/201...aningless-soundbites-maintains-straight-face/

Blair was and is an extremely skilled operator and orator, with great strategic and tactical flair. But he was a big scaredy cat about economics, something that turned out to be rather important in the end. He didn’t ask any basic questions on this subject from the time he crossed the threshold of Number 10 until he departed a decade later. The same cannot be said of Margaret Thatcher, Jim Callaghan, Harold Wilson and most PMs of the modern era. They didn’t always come up with the right answers, but at least they took an interest.

In contrast, TB and his aides accepted the idea promoted by the then chancellor, entirely without question it appears, that boom and bust had been ended. On that basis the country spent and borrowed like mad, with almost the whole political class and much of the public joining in. Very few people could have called with any credibility for a little restraint or forced a change of course on easy credit, bank regulation or the runaway increase in public spending. In theory, Blair might have stepped in if he hadn’t been so scared of offending the man next door (who was a big scaredy cat in his own way and would have run a mile if the PM had thumped him). Blair could have been that man. But he wasn’t.

Fine, we all make mistakes. Although not all of us make mistakes as big as those that lead to a national debt of £1.4 trillion by 2014. Still, a little humility wouldn’t go amiss for missing completely how important fiscal responsibility is.

Instead those old Blairites talk endlessly of their own supposed ideological bravery (”back in my day we did the intellectual heavy-lifting, tackled all the big questions so that we knew what we were going to do”). As though they somehow confronted truth at all times and lived only on a diet of hard choices. In economic terms they lived on easy street and were so contemptuous of the lessons of history that they made that ancient mistake: they thought it was different this time. Worse they thought it was different because of something brilliant they had done or were associated with. Sadly, it wasn’t different. Look what happened next.

 

[Nash]

I'm going to vote BNP because I like racism and dislike asylum seekers.

 

[Slam62]

yeah but you can't trust the tories can you, especially a multi millionaire who thinks other people volunteering is the answer and everyone can vote on everything and run everything. It's going to end in chaos.

When they get in the tories will cut like mad and come up with daft unfair taxes that they can't understand why the prols don't like them.

Mind you Nick Clegg sounds ok I just wish more people would be prepared to vote for something other than labour or tory.

 

[Mr Jack]

The Tory manifesto is a litany of truly clueless policies. They're gone to make a right mess of things. Labour promises more of the same - yay! 'Cos that's gone so great for the last 13 years.

Most of the Liberal manifesto is pretty good.

 

[Glaucus]

Most of the Liberal manifesto is pretty good.

Apart form the big points which control economy and power, leading us to a massive headache.
Lib dems might have fair few decent policies and more substance than the others. But those two points mean they wont get my vote as they are setting the country up for a beating.

Raping big companies that give so much employment and jobs to the UK, it's already hard enough keeping them here and no nuclear.

 

[meghatronic]

conservatives: wouldnt trust camron as for as i could throw him, toff, resort to negative advertising campaign = never getting my vote

You might want to look into Labour's advertising campaigns if you can get your tongue out of their rectum long enough.

Also why you're at it, look at GB's background - he's hardly a pauper.

Or, as I suspect, just roll over and let Labour tickle your belly. Besides, 4yr more years can't be that bad....

Aside,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8616939.stm

ARE THEY ON CRACK? All this will do is force banker's salaries up 1-2000%. Stupid idea to seem popular the masses. Bonuses are a good thing.

 

[Will Lucky]

You might want to look into Labour's advertising campaigns if you can get your tongue out of their rectum long enough.

Also why you're at it, look at GB's background - he's hardly a pauper.

Or, as I suspect, just roll over and let Labour tickle your belly. Besides, 4yr more years can't be that bad....

Aside,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8616939.stm

ARE THEY ON CRACK? All this will do is force banker's salaries up 1-2000%. Stupid idea to seem popular the masses. Bonuses are a good thing.

Better question, will the bankers actually stay here with that cap?

 

[drew64]

what right do they actually have to cap the bonus' ?

im entirely for getting back the money we put in back, whole heartedly, but the cap just seems to be playing up for people.

 

[Yozz76]

Has to be Labour for me even if it isn't the party I was brought up to believe in. The Conservatives for me will always stand for selfishness and I'm alright Jack etc. Is probably all down to remembering my family suffer under Maggie's reign and the influence of my socialist parents if I'm honest as I'm actually pretty uneduacted in terms of politics these days.

 

[Dolph]

ARE YOU ON CRACK?!

Bonuses would be allowed, but only £2500 would be allowed in the form of cash... on top of that bankers would be able to get however many shares, by way of bonus, the bank deems fair... with the caveat being that they cannot sell them within five years (so to dissuade bankers from making epic gambles).

At a boardroom level they want there to be no bonuses, but they don't care if there's a large salary... what they're trying to stop is the highly risky gambling which happens.

Which won't happen, all that will happen is that the bankers will move somewhere else and we'll lose all the tax revenue we get from them.