Traffic Cops BBC1 9pm tonight!

[MikeHiow]

The "POLAC" was annoying, because although he was a typical young, inexperienced and uninsured ****, he wasn't exactly clear cut at fault. He was indicating in advance of moving over, and the copper mentioned he had no reason too, made no mention of the exit from that garage, which there may have been a car sat - the copper failed to read the road during his high speed (which he has a responsibility to do) , if that happened to anyone else but a copper, the roles would have been reversed I feel.

As for the Irish nipper, come on, he had a point. Although that wouldn't be safe at normal speeds, crawling along at 10MPH there is no real issue in terms of safety.

 

[Banny]

3 wheel nuts is alright to get you home, nothing wrong with that

 

[daz]

The "POLAC" was annoying, because although he was a typical young, inexperienced and uninsured ****, he wasn't exactly clear cut at fault. He was indicating in advance of moving over, and the copper mentioned he had no reason too, made no mention of the exit from that garage, which there may have been a car sat - the copper failed to read the road during his high speed (which he has a responsibility to do) , if that happened to anyone else but a copper, the roles would have been reversed I feel.

The uninsured guy was 100% to blame, but it is an accident that could have been avoided by the police car had he been patient. Of course, the person actually in the lane already has right of way regardless of whether the uninsured guy was indicating or not.

He did have the blues and twos going so maybe thought that there's no way the car would not see him and wait for him to go through before changing lanes.

 

[LizardKing]

As for the Irish nipper, come on, he had a point. Although that wouldn't be safe at normal speeds, crawling along at 10MPH there is no real issue in terms of safety.

If he wasn't so **** sure of himself then the copper may have given him some leeway but the guys attitude stunk.
At the end of the day the car was not road legal. Anything else was down to the coppers discretion, with that guys attitude its hardly surprising he was not inclined to let this one go.

 

[DiG]

If he wasn't so **** sure of himself then the copper may have given him some leeway but the guys attitude stunk.
At the end of the day the car was not road legal. Anything else was down to the coppers discretion, with that guys attitude its hardly surprising he was not inclined to let this one go.

Also it appeared that they thought it might be a second vehicle from the stinger earlier in the program. I think thats why they where a little more aggressive than they might otherwise have been to start with

 

[stulid]

it was when he said "why you getting arsey with me?" that made think what a ***** knob.

there's just no justification of driving a car in that condition, no matter what speed.

 

[End Creditz]

The irish dude should've had his hazards on to indicate the hazardous condition of his motor, that might've helped.......... up till he made the basic error of pointing out that he was much more intelligent than the copper.

I'm pretty sure most on here know it's best to just bite your tongue when dealing with traffic police no matter how right you might be

 

[Scania]

The "POLAC" was annoying, because although he was a typical young, inexperienced and uninsured ****, he wasn't exactly clear cut at fault. He was indicating in advance of moving over, and the copper mentioned he had no reason too, made no mention of the exit from that garage, which there may have been a car sat - the copper failed to read the road during his high speed (which he has a responsibility to do) , if that happened to anyone else but a copper, the roles would have been reversed I feel.

As for the Irish nipper, come on, he had a point. Although that wouldn't be safe at normal speeds, crawling along at 10MPH there is no real issue in terms of safety.

Any motorist who can't check his surroundings for a marked patrol car displaying Blue lights (and flashing headlamps) and drives in that thoughtless manner deserves everything he gets.

He was absolutely 100% in the wrong and I hope due care was added to his list of other offences.

Alas, he did not give a ****.

And as for the Irish prat, he was 100% in the wrong too. The Copper was doing his job which is to keep cretins like Paddy off our roads.

 

[Yarde]

Any motorist who can't check his surroundings for a marked patrol car displaying Blue lights (and flashing headlamps) and drives in that thoughtless manner deserves everything he gets.

He was absolutely 100% in the wrong and I hope due care was added to his list of other offences.

Alas, he did not give a ****.

And as for the Irish prat, he was 100% in the wrong too. The Copper was doing his job which is to keep cretins like Paddy off our roads.

Too true my friend! It's people like that that are the most dangerous. The ones who don#'t think they aren't doing anything wrong!

However, I had quite a giggle when they did the tricks with the horn on the abandoned van. Especially the second time on the orignial "prankster"

 

[Burnsy2023]

That Irish guy was a cocky **** and so was that guy who was involved in the PolAcc.

 

[thecremeegg]

That irish guy made me so angry, such an utter **** and will likely cause no end of accidents with his vehicle. If it had been anyone else I bet they'd have got banned and a £1000 fine, but the bloody ****** get away with it

 

[cymatty]

Any motorist who can't check his surroundings for a marked patrol car displaying Blue lights (and flashing headlamps) and drives in that thoughtless manner deserves everything he gets.

He was absolutely 100% in the wrong and I hope due care was added to his list of other offences.

IIRC didnt the patrol car come over the brow of a hill just before the smash? Therefore he may have looked but then moved over and with the speed of the police car it wasnt in his mirror when he looked?

 

[stulid]

the accident happened well past the brow, it was more near where the road levelled out after going down hill for a bit.

he just moved over to the right hand lane for no reason.

there wasn't any cars pulling out from the left.

there are no right hand turns, dual carriage way had a divider.

and your taught to always move to the left when an emergency vehicle is approaching.

100% the fools fault, and he didn't even care.

 

[cymatty]

the accident happened well past the brow, it was more near where the road levelled out after going down hill for a bit.

he just moved over to the right hand lane for no reason.

there wasn't any cars pulling out from the left.

there are no right hand turns, dual carriage way had a divider.

and your taught to always move to the left when an emergency vehicle is approaching.

100% the fools fault, and he didn't even care.

I agree it was his fault, however well past the brow is not that long (time wise) when you are doing that speed, the police man should have been prepared for someone doing something daft.

This pretty much sums up my feelings (stolen from PH)

I thought that they were a little unfair on the Clio driver and the look of relief on the police driver's face when he realised that he was going to be able to get him for driving without insurance (and therefore able to muddy the waters) was clear.

The Clio driver should have seen the police car, but in the lad's defence, which of us would expect to find a police car travelling at huge speed and using both lanes of a dual carriageway. It may even have been that the lad saw the police car in the inside lane and moved out to the right to let him through. He signaled his intention to move across, would an elderly person or child have given the police officer that much warning before starting to cross the road?

The Clio driver lost all my sympathy though when it turned out he was driving without insurance but I wonder if the incident would have made the programme if it have not been for the driver's insurance infringement?

What really annoyed me was the police officer's attitude (and that of his boss). Basically, according to their soundbites, if anyone has an accident with a police car it is their fault, because they (the police) have special training. Perhaps that training should include a module on expecting the unexpected and considering that up ahead of them might be a new driver listening to music at level 10 on the radio, who might do something unpredictable etc, etc.

Finally, what was the incident that this highly trained officer was rushing to? Was someone being raped/murdered/held up at gun point? No, there had been a bit of an accident and traffic was backed up, no fatalities, just people setting themsleves up for whiplash comp claims, so I struggled to see the need for two cars to respond by tearing around built up areas.

 

[Scania]

IIRC didnt the patrol car come over the brow of a hill just before the smash? Therefore he may have looked but then moved over and with the speed of the police car it wasnt in his mirror when he looked?

He may well have looked but, imo, did not look again!

The copper saw him and reacted, the other guy did not react at all.

I do recall in my (HGV) test being told to check check and check again mirrors but watching other motorists on our roads (inbetween mirror checking ) I notice that the mirror watchers seem to be in the minority.

He was un-insured and should have been pulled from the car & shot anyway.

 

[Meridian]

As for the PH quote: at the time of the accident the officer still thought he was dealing with injured people at least. It was only when he got to the scene he found it was a minor fender bender.



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[Sin_Chase]

The officer who got hit by the Clio is a total prat. Someone needs to take him down a peg or ten.

"If you hit a patrol car you don't tell them its their fault, you take it on the chin"

Because traffic police are 100% infallible. What an idiot. That guy lost any and all credibility the second I heard that.

 

[Fr0dders]

I agree it was his fault, however well past the brow is not that long (time wise) when you are doing that speed, the police man should have been prepared for someone doing something daft.

got to agree with Si here

although the clio driver was at fault, you can reasonably argue that the accident could have been avoided if the police driver responded to him indicating. He did indicate well before he moved out. At this point he should have thought "has he seen me?" and brakes and waited to see what he did.

The copper was in the wrong for assuming he had seen him and was ok to fly past him at a speed probably comming up on double what he was doing. His attitude at the end that "if you crash into a copper, dont try and make it out its our fault, because it wont ever be" sort of thing, spoke volumes.

 

[lawz]

Watching the video (just from what I remember) there was quite a number of seconds where the two drivers could see each other through mirrors. The clio driver also appeared to indicate and pull out at the same time, how many of us has this happened to on the motorway and how many of us have cursed the living daylights out of the driver when they nearly hit us for simply not looking?

I live in Stafford, which isnt the biggest place in the world but has the police and fire station and hospital on quite busy roads, and sat in traffic/moving even with music on, you can hear the things coming well before you see them. I normally get stupid looks because I'm used to it and am stopped somewhere so when it appears it can get past, and the impatient ***** who go around me look stupid when they have to squeeze in somewhere.

Driving, I've found in my meager 2 and a bit years since passing, is way way way more than they let on in the training and test. But I've also found a little patience, common sense and appreciation of the road your on can go a long way to limiting accidents.

Stealing your mums keys, driving with no insurance and therefore no regard for other road users if you do hit them, and then pulling out on a highly visible police car with sirens and lights blaring and then claiming you 'didnt see it' is imo cause enough for a ban from driving.

 

[Naf]

although the clio driver was at fault, you can reasonably argue that the accident could have been avoided if the police driver responded to him indicating. He did indicate well before he moved out. At this point he should have thought "has he seen me?" and brakes and waited to see what he did.

The copper was in the wrong for assuming he had seen him and was ok to fly past him at a speed probably comming up on double what he was doing. His attitude at the end that "if you crash into a copper, dont try and make it out its our fault, because it wont ever be" sort of thing, spoke volumes.

Errrr, no he didn't? He indicated and moved out at pretty much the same time (I count him crossing over to L2 after going past 3 white lines - whatever distance that is I don't know) He clearly didn't check over his shoulder, or even in his mirrors as the copper is in view behind him for a considerable time before he decided to randomly change lanes.

The fact that he had no insurance and had TWOC his mum's car spoke greater volumes than the copper's attitude imo.