TV Election debates - how are they doing?

kibblerok said:
Clegg > Cameron > Brown

Clegg: Was always going to win - good orator, never given much air time so a chance to shine.
Cameron - At a disadvantage from the start due to high expectations smooth Cameron will sweep up. Not doing too bad and holding his own.
Brown - Nobody expected anything anyway. He hasn't messed up so its kind of a victory for him.
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Sums it up the best I think. Cameron didn't manage to fail that badly but because he was expected to shine it came off as worse than it was. I

Nick Clegg was good but like others have said he has nothing to lose.

As I said in my Twitter stream last night. If Labour get back in we're screwed. This is not a time for better the Devil you know...
 
bam0 said:
I disagree that the LibDems had nothing to lose, for a fair number of people it was probably their first introduction to the LibDems, if he'd come across as weak, or said anything that sounded particularly stupid, or been frozen out by the other two it would have solidified opinion that they are an also-ran party not worthy of serious consideration. I'll agree that they had the most to gain out of these debates, but they definitely could have lost out.
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I agree. I was watching to see how he faired and he did a decent job. I'm still not sure who to vote for or if it even matters. Living in Glasgow almost guarantees a Labour or SNP a win though so not sure it really matters who I vote for it'd never be the SNP and very unlikely to be labour.

Still two more debates to go!
 
neon.uk said:
I have to disagree with this. Gordon Brown is probably the least charismatic of the lot and I believe will be the downfall of the Labour party at this election. If you look at the last 13 years of labour government - war, recession, spending and borrowing like crazy, in my opinion they needed someone new at the helm to indicate a change from the last 13 years. David Miliband would have been a much better fit to take Labour into the election. Gordon looked a bit like the odd one out last night.

His tribute to the armed forces was also cringeworthy, you could see it was scripted, and I get the vibe from him that he isn't behind our armed forces at all. Just an observation.
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Well i thought he was charismatic, he was stern and very passionate how he spoke, and the only one that got a chuckle.

Well war, recession etc, look back on the Conservatives, high interest, high inflation, 4million unemployed, war, recessions etc. When i did Govt and Pol one issue that was mentioned was the person who poses the biggest threat to leadership is given Chancellor.

GB was the odd one out because of his age.

I'll agree he does show little compassion towards our Armed Forces however saying that they've had massive spending increases under Labour and having 2 family members who are ex-Forces (now) the Forces have generally been much better (minus food according to my Uncle).
 
meghatronic said:
How are Cameron and Clegg not fresh blood? (not trolling, asking for your opinion).
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I meant apart from the established partys. There must be a lot of people who could really give a lot to the UK, doctors, teachers and other professionals, and many others who have some life expertise.

After all, you have many MP's who have a full time job and only go to the Commons when the whips call them.

I remember Clegg brought up that Cameron and Brown had vetoed change to MP's expenses etc when they had a committee to look into it.

Cameron still has eg the 1922 committee to appease in his party.

I will not hold my breath though, the people in this country are pathetic. During the height of the expenses scandal, with people raging at MP's they had a golden chance to put them in their place. The Euro elections!
What did they do? Apart from a very small minority they voted for the same shower. People in this country deserve the most corrupt MPs going because they refuse to get off their backsides and spend ten minutes doing something about it.
The real no-brainers are those who do not vote and then moan about the state of the country.
As the Aussies say - a nation of whingers.
 
I thought Clegg was excellent and the polls clearly reflected his impact. Could this be the first power-sharing government for Britain?
 
Evangelion said:
I thought Clegg was excellent and the polls clearly reflected his impact. Could this be the first power-sharing government for Britain?
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1974 was a hung Lab-Lib Parliament and 9 months later we had a General Election.

However I wonder what will happen in the Foreign Policy debate, more interesting if the EU is mentioned. The Lib Dem love Europe and the response will be interesting. Meanwhile the Tories grouping in the EU is controversial to say the least. And Brown's refusal to give us a referendum on the EU wasn't popular either. Be interesting to see which of the three walks out strongest after that one.
 
RaohNS said:
As i'm Labour through and through
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Well that just invalidates a lot of what you've just said, bias! Yes, Gordon Brown 'masterminded' the five hundred million pounds of debt we are getting into per day.
 
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LordSplodge said:
Sums it up the best I think. Cameron didn't manage to fail that badly but because he was expected to shine it came off as worse than it was. I

Nick Clegg was good but like others have said he has nothing to lose.

As I said in my Twitter stream last night. If Labour get back in we're screwed. This is not a time for better the Devil you know...
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Cameron should never have agreed to this debate, his performance was terrible and he was silenced too many times by Cleggs comments. And to finish it off he just started kissing a## to everyone he spoke to. NHS...i would like to thank you for the great job you do....Military....I would just like to thank you for the great job you do...

And talking about kissing butt. Brown was so kissing up to Clegg knowing that there is a good chance of a draw between the main two.

I know Clegg doesnt have the same pressure but out of the three he came across as the best of the three.

I did love the end though, Cameron and Clegg stood up on the stage at the end whilst Brown was straight into the crowd shaking everyones hands. Then when the they both realised they both ran into the crowd and started shaking their hands. :D
 
I think this showed Cameron's true colors, he came across smarmy, very style over substance.

Nick Clegg came off very well, but for all that his/libdem policies are deeply flawed a mixture of short term gains ignoring the long term issues it will cause and trying to be everything to everyone (which tactically unfortunatly is the only way they stand a chance but leaves them looking like they are dis-organised twising every which way). This in conjunction with their apparent stance on trident (we absolutely need a nuclear deterrent at almost any cost) means that they would likely wreck the country in the long term in pursuit of short term ideals.

I was suprised by Gordon Brown, he came off uncharacteristically dynamic, well poised, shame that everything that came out of his mouth sounded hollow, sure it was the way things should be done, but anyone with any sense knows labour will never implement those policies, even more of a shame because they sounded the most sane of those proposed.
 
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fini said:
I liked how Cameron met a black 40 year old man who'd been in the navy for the past 30 years and how Clegg had to keep reminding everyone that he's an MP.
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It was even worse!

" A 40 year old black man who told me she'd came to England when she was 6 and had served in the navy for 30 years".

What an idiot he is!
 
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