China and Sterilising Parents...

PianoBasher said:
In all seriousness, some sort of medium-term contraceptive solution until they actually want to make a contribution to society would be more workable :) I think that having children you can't afford to pay for is not fair on everyone else and most importantly not fair on the child.

Anyway, some sort of birth limit surely isn't a bad thing in general. Everyone harps on about green credentials these days. Surely the most environmentally friendly thing you can possibly do is to not have children?
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Sadly whilst I agree with you on the points made, there are major human rights issues with this approach. Certain religions dont believe in contraception for a start and we seem to have an entire generation of retards in the form of chavs, hoodies, rude bois and wannabe gangsters who squirt kids out all over the country and can't pay for them.

If I was PM, I'd say have an IQ test and if you get below 100 (so average) you get steralised lol. Extremely right wing approach but would make sense to weed out the rubbish in society.
 
LordSplodge said:
The Earth is running out of space for us humans. Something needs to be done as at around 8-10 billion it's game over.
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Yeah we haven't had a World War for quite some years or major catastrophe, those two alone usually gives the populations a good cull.

Imagine if their hadn't been WW1 or WW2 what the population would be like, probally be another 100 Million+ Jews on the planet thats for sure.
 
With regards to the OP, I would expect China's birth control laws are well known to the citizens of the country. Those choosing to flout the law and churn out kids run the risk of being treated as criminals, this then would be the metered response to breaking the law.

While on the surface it's a violation of human rights, one could argue that the laws are there to protect citizens and their country be it one that outlaws terrorism or one that imposes a limit on procreation. After all, if the offenders didn't like the confines of the law they could have emigrated or fled.

I can't help but think some of the responses so far as extremely Orwellian, but I do find myself leaning towards a paid opt-in sterilisation program that if implemented properly could control populations and reward participants financially putting them on a better footing towards being productive members of society instead of a drain.*

*Who am I kidding, that £5K would get slashed up a wall in a month. :D
 
Stumble Bum said:
Earth is able to to sustain a far far higher population than that!
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That's with current resource usage and farming methods. It can go beyond 10 billion but it isn't going to be much fun for those living here.

The only long term solution to mankind's problems here on Earth is to get off-world.
 
Nelly said:
Yeah we haven't had a World War for quite some years or major catastrophe, those two alone usually gives the populations a good cull.

Imagine if their hadn't been WW1 or WW2 what the population would be like, probally be another 100 Million+ Jews on the planet thats for sure.
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Jews make up such a small part of total war deaths its untrue. Look at this:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm

its completely mental.
 
Nelly said:
Yeah we haven't had a World War for quite some years or major catastrophe, those two alone usually gives the populations a good cull.

Imagine if their hadn't been WW1 or WW2 what the population would be like, probally be another 100 Million+ Jews on the planet thats for sure.
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Six million Jewish people were killed in the holocaust. Following population trends that would mean there could have been 12-18 million more Jews today. Not quite 100+ million, but still a significant number.

The middle east certainly would look dramatically different; whether the state of Israel would even be formed (as Western guilt over the holocaust was a prime catalyst), and the potential for the current population of 7 million to be so much higher, with the associated ramifications on the rest of the middle east...

It does make you ponder.
 
KNiVES said:
Six million Jewish people were killed in the holocaust. Following population trends that would mean there could have been 12-18 million more Jews today. Not quite 100+ million, but still a significant number.

The middle east certainly would look dramatically different; whether the state of Israel would even be formed (as Western guilt over the holocaust was a prime catalyst), and the potential for the current population of 7 million to be so much higher, with the associated ramifications on the rest of the middle east...

It does make you ponder.
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Without Israel's interventions it would be interesting to see the state of several middle eastern nuclear programs, or whether America/Britain would forgo all diplomacy and attack them directly themselves.
 
jellybeard999 said:
Surely that's the aim? Once they die, the population is massively reduced.
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But there are other implications that arise before that happens. For example, it is likely that China will have problems where there is only a small percentage of the population who are of working age.

I'm not sure how things work in China, but for us that would mean that as well as having a small working population trying to provide services for a huge population, we'd also have to find a way where this small percentage can financially support those who are unable to work [(children (care), disabled (care), large number of retired (pensions/care)].
 
LordSplodge said:
Excluding the serious lolage there is a serious issue here. Earths population.
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It's only a problem if you want to feed them all and bring them to a first world standard.

If once west+eastern developed nations food supplies run low and they all stop sending aid to Africa/other 3rd world countries, to make sure they can feed themselves, the world population will drop fairly rapidly.
 
Tefal said:
Without Israel's interventions it would be interesting to see the state of several middle eastern nuclear programs, or whether America/Britain would forgo all diplomacy and attack them directly themselves.
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It would also be interesting to see what impact Israel's interventions have had on China and sterilising parents. :p;)
 
What about the idea of killing off all the elderly and feeding them to the young?

Put a maximum age of 75 or so, less if your disabled, then stick them in a blender, cook them in handy snack sized bars and distribute them to the young. Would sort out all sorts of problems, including population growth, and feeding the growing population.

And depressed people could sign up early,3 time criminals could be added to the program early.
 
KNiVES said:
Six million Jewish people were killed in the holocaust. Following population trends that would mean there could have been 12-18 million more Jews today. Not quite 100+ million, but still a significant number.

The middle east certainly would look dramatically different; whether the state of Israel would even be formed (as Western guilt over the holocaust was a prime catalyst), and the potential for the current population of 7 million to be so much higher, with the associated ramifications on the rest of the middle east...

It does make you ponder.
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Just been reading up on casualties etc, total of around 61 million deaths, I wonder how much breeding they would have done if they had all been alive, kids, grandkids, a few great grandkids.
 
Nelly said:
Just been reading up on casualties etc, total of around 61 million deaths, I wonder how much breeding they would have done if they had all been alive, kids, grandkids, a few great grandkids.
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probably not that much compared to the other 3 billion people :p
 
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