Poll: New poll on who you will vote for?

[[TW]Fox]

I don't understand why we are having these televised debates - with our flawed, stupid electoral system you do not vote for either of the 3 people involved in the debates anyway.

Presidential style debates for a non presidential election are counter productive.

 

[RDM]

How come hardly anyone votes for the Green party? They are brilliant IMO, and I'll be voting for them.

Primarily because I prefer living in the 21st Century rather than some countrywide hippy commune. Their policies are an absolute horror and would utterly destroy this country.

 

[meghatronic]

I don't understand why we are having these televised debates - with our flawed, stupid electoral system you do not vote for either of the 3 people involved in the debates anyway.

Presidential style debates for a non presidential election are counter productive.

Quite.

 

[PermaBanned]

Most people do not want an yearly 8% increase of fuel duty.

Have you seen their policies? They'll send the country back to the dark ages.

Primarily because I prefer living in the 21st Century rather than some countrywide hippy commune. Their policies are an absolute horror and would utterly destroy this country.

This is what's wrong with this forum... the Greens are fairly close to where Labour used to be when they were a good party.

 

[ChroniC]

This here is exactly why democracy (or at least this General Election) is so unbelieveably ****** up.

You talk about 'trust', yet you are willing to put the entire future on a 90min (best case 3x90min) over-rehearsed 'debates' on television?

This isn't X-factor. Go have a stiff drink and think about it.


Yeah because the poor and middle classes have done so well under Labour.


Troll post is trolltastic. If not, .....

Thank you for being very patronising, as I wrote it is a contributing factor.
The fact still remains that we are trying to establish whether policies actually mean a perfect government.
Labours policies have messed this country up, yet they must not have put in their last manifesto *will allow country to go wild with imaginary credit untill almost everything cost to much*
I consider your self righteous posting to be rather idiotic considering that your telling me to choose between basically a rock and hard place.
Welcome to democracy, your choice is a turd sandwich or a giant douche.

 

[The Badger]

Lib Dems.

 

[Mr Jack]

We do need new power plants (and a range of types - nuclear, petroelum-based, coal, renewables, biomass) to meet our needs (growing population & industry) and to ensure future energy security.

Yes, I think that's the best way forward. However, I don't think the Lib Dems policy of not employing Nuclear would be a disaster.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

Most people do not want an yearly 8% increase of fuel duty.

I take it such increase in taxation would be offset elsewhere by the Greens in terms of tax cuts ?

I have my doubts.

 

[cymatty]

Primarily because I prefer living in the 21st Century rather than some countrywide hippy commune. Their policies are an absolute horror and would utterly destroy this country.

Just had a look at the policies for the lolz

The Green Party will fight for a National Minimum Wage of 60% of net national average earnings (currently this would mean a minimum wage of £8.10 per hour).

We would ensure all pensioners receive a basic non-means tested £170 a week

Introduce taxation on aviation that reflects its full environmental costs. Failure to tax aviation fuel, and choosing not to levy VAT on tickets and aircraft, amounts to a subsidy worth around £10bn every year in the UK alone.

 

[Masterdog]

It's disingenuous to say you don't vote for Brown, Cameron or Clegg. The personality and politics of whoever is Prime Minister is going to have a bigger effect on your daily life than your local MP. And although you don't directly vote for them, you vote for the person you want to pick who the PM is going to be. Stupid system, maybe, but it's not true to say the leaders debates are irrelevant.

 

[Deiwos]

The only thing I see as a plus to the televised debates is that they may help on-the-fence voters decide (albeit poorly) on who to vote for and possibly encourage a higher turnout at the polls.

I do think the debate that has occurred so far has encouraged people to consider this election as more than a 2-party race like they previously have been which is definitely one good thing to come from it.

 

[Mucky_Pup]

Will vote Conservative, but I will echo what I said in another thread, that I doubt it will make much difference here, as the Labour majority was about 16,000 last time, and has been Labour here since the time Fred Flintstone was knocking about. Ergo, they'd vote Gary Glitter in as our local MP if he had a red rosette pinned onto his blazer lapel.

 

[meghatronic]

Thank you for being very patronising, as I wrote it is a contributing factor.

I missed your edit, but I deliberately stripped party/candidate out to make it generic. Was not a personal attack, was highlighting the stupidity of most. E.g. Twitterverse.

 

[kibblerok]

Good man, as long as the Conservatives win we'll have a perfect government with the Lib Dems as opposition. I want to see Labour utterly destroyed for what they have done to us.

Here here.

As long as Labour are wiped off the political map I don't care who wins.

 

[PermaBanned]

The only thing I see as a plus to the televised debates is that they may help on-the-fence voters decide (albeit poorly) on who to vote for and possibly encourage a higher turnout at the polls.

I do think the debate that has occurred so far has encouraged people to consider this election as more than a 2-party race like they previously have been which is definitely one good thing to come from it.

Of course the problem there is that it's now only a three horse race... there are hundreds of parties who don't even have a chance - something that's been amplified because of these debates. I mean, it isn't practical to have representatives from every one of them on at the same time but they should at least have had representatives from every end of the political scale i think.

 

[Nzyme]

Yes, I think that's the best way forward. However, I don't think the Lib Dems policy of not employing Nuclear would be a disaster.

Maybe not a disaster but i believe it would severly disadvatage us.

New generation reactors produce waste heat at a high grade as well which can be used to create hydrogen quite efficiently which is another pro

 

[Mr Jack]

Maybe not a disaster but i believe it would severly disadvatage us.

Yes, but they also have better energy efficiency and renewable policies which should mitigate or even exceed the drawbacks. Which is the usual problem with party politics: every manifesto I've read so far has ideas in it which I'd like to see implemented but instead you have to make a block choice.

 

[Mr Jack]

I take it such increase in taxation would be offset elsewhere by the Greens in terms of tax cuts ?

No, the Greens plan on increasing taxation by roughly a 1/6th from 36% to 42% of GDP. They proper socialists, you see

 

[bhavv]

The Green agenda:

Life on Earth is under immense pressure. It is human activity, more than anything else, which is threatening the well-being of the environment on which we depend. Conventional politics has failed us because its values are fundamentally flawed.

The Green Party isn't just another political party. Green politics is a new and radical kind of politics guided by these core principles;


1.Humankind depends on the diversity of the natural world for its existence. We do not believe that other species are expendable.

2.The Earth's physical resources are finite. We threaten our future if we try to live beyond those means, so we must build a sustainable society that guarantees our long-term future.

3.Every person, in this and future generations, should be entitled to basic material security as of right.

4.Our actions should take account of the well-being of other nations, other species, and future generations. We should not pursue our well-being to the detriment of theirs.

5.A healthy society is based on voluntary co-operation between empowered individuals in a democratic society, free from discrimination whether based on race, colour, gender, sexual orientation, religion, social origin or any other prejudice.

6.We emphasise democratic participation and accountability by ensuring that decisions are taken at the closest practical level to those affected by them.

7.We look for non-violent solutions to conflict situations, which take into account the interests of minorities and future generations in order to achieve lasting settlements.

8.The success of a society cannot be measured by narrow economic indicators, but should take account of factors affecting the quality of life for all people: personal freedom, social equity, health, happiness and human fulfilment.

9.Electoral politics is not the only way to achieve change in society, and we will use a variety of methods to help effect change, providing those methods do not conflict with our other core principles.

10.The Green Party puts changes in both values and lifestyles at the heart of the radical

green agenda.

Doesnt sound anything like the dark ages to me, it sounds like what todays age should be like.

 

[Nzyme]

Yes, but they also have better energy efficiency and renewable policies which should mitigate or even exceed the drawbacks. Which is the usual problem with party politics: every manifesto I've read so far has ideas in it which I'd like to see implemented but instead you have to make a block choice.

Fair enough, can i jsut ask your opinion on the new feed-in tariffs. Theres quite a debate in the office at the minute on if they are a 'good thing' or not.