Poll: New poll on who you will vote for?

Who?

  • Labour

    Votes: 76 10.0%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 286 37.6%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 324 42.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 75 9.9%
  • Total voters
    761
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meghatronic said:
If OcUK is a good sample:

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I could go with that. It wouldn't be the ideal scenario for me, but it would be a great start. I don't want more of the same. :/
 
KNiVES said:
Was going to vote Lib Dem before the televised debate anyway. All you 'OMG Lib Dem will ruin us' people are absolutely freaking hilarious. It's like you've totally forgotten what Labour and Conservatives have done to this country whenever they've gone into power.

People who vote Tory have the memory of a goldfish.
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So you agree with much of the Lib Dem manifesto then? A lot of it is absolute pipe dream rubbish. As for having the memory of a gold fish-I think not. I remember well what it was like under the Conservatives and yes, mistakes were made.However i was also the most well off i have ever been and have been raped by Labour. The 3 main parties are the only realistic option and of the 3, The tories would get my vote-edit that, i mean WILL:D
 
zooankski said:
I remember well what it was like under the Conservatives and yes, mistakes were made.However i was also the most well off i have ever been and have been raped by Labour.
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Wait... You mean to say Britain maybe wasn't quite as bad as the Lab/Lib would have you believe?!? :o
 
Neither are perfect. But at least under labour we don't have any reason to go out on the streets protesting or physically stopping the government from carrying out their wishes.
 
joeyjojo said:
CO2 is a problem. Graph. Graph. Link. Link. Blah blah blah
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I still fail to see a problem, so what the CO2 level raises and the temp ? Also this is more caused by population growth than anything else in my eyes, why should I adjust my life because others have too many kids and caused the world population to double in the last 40 ish years ?

I guess you think our way of life is the only thing that increased the CO2 in the atmosphere, it has happened so often in the past, your 3rd link shows that...
I guess the fact that now 8x more people live on earth now than in 1750 has nothing to do with it ?

You last link:
Retreat of glaciers since 1850
The retreat of glaciers since 1850 affects the availability of fresh water for irrigation and domestic use, mountain recreation, animals and plants that depend on glacier-melt, and in the longer term, the level of the oceans.
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blahlblah blah further down:
The Little Ice Age was a period from about 1550 to 1850 when the world experienced relatively cooler temperatures compared to the present.
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Brilliantly illustrative quote! I believe that this attitude is the biggest cause of human problems.
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No it's not, it's what keeps competitiveness active.
You might be aware of how palm oil can be very cheaply acquired for things like chocolate bars, but usually results in destruction of huge areas of rainforest. Since it is the "cheapest=best" way, Nestlé (real example) do it like that, and are under huge fire from Greenpeace.
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Onoes! Greenpeace :rolleyes:.

Or an example you might not have seen - the Passenger Pigeon. It was one of the most abundant birds in the world in the 19th century at 3-5 BILLION. They also were easily caught and were a very "cheap=good" source of meat. Within 100 years they were totally extinct, eaten to extinction by humans. The world's last passenger pigeon died in 1914.
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Poor pigeon :rolleyes:. So what, we are humans, not pigeons... If the pigeons are too stupid to get caught by people, it's survival of the fittest in action.

The "cheapest=best" clothes were probably made by the most repressed people in the world.
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And you think simple consumers can stop this ?

The "cheapest=best" food probably has the most chemicals/pesticides/GM in it. The "cheapest=best" meat was the most cruely grown.
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Proof?
And if true:
Ohnoes :confused:.

There are probably thousands of examples.
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All of your examples are ''what's the problem?'' in my eyes.

Maybe choose one which isn't just the price tag in GBP.
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In a capitalist society, money matters...
 
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KNiVES said:
Was going to vote Lib Dem before the televised debate anyway. All you 'OMG Lib Dem will ruin us' people are absolutely freaking hilarious. It's like you've totally forgotten what Labour and Conservatives have done to this country whenever they've gone into power.

People who vote Tory have the memory of a goldfish.
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Can you please post your views on their policies, particularly those I highlighted in my previous post.....


Chris1712 said:
I'm really surprised at this current swing towards the Lib-Dems, it really makes me wonder if ANY of these fence sitters have actually read through their policies? I'm a first time voter, and I'm undecided, but LD have several policies which just seem ridiculous to me.

No Nuclear Power - We don't have enough power in this country, renewable energy is not good/cheap enough for the amount of energy we need.

No Nuclear deterrent - I'd rather have a gun and not need it, than need a gun and not have it. Plus, is it really going to cost that much? 3-4Bn a year, and it will generate so much wealth aswell. You can pretty much guarantee 90% of the workforce will be paying 40% tax, plus the tech and service we will generate from it which could then be exported etc.

10% Bank Tax - We need banks. It doesn't matter how much everyone hates them after the recession, we need them. If they all decide to leave we're screwed.

£2500 Bonus cap - See above. But also, 2.5k isnt an unreasonable amount for someone even on an average wage to accumulate.

£1000 Capital gains tax - Will take a big cut from a lot of people. Certainly in my work sector a lot of companies give stocks/shares over cash bonuses etc. so this could really hit me.


I can't see how anyone can say the policies I've shown above are GOOD ideas?
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I'm not saying Lab/Con have all brilliant fantastic orgasmic policies, but all of the above are absolute deal breakers for me. I cannot see how anyone can look past them. At least Lab/Con have a bunch of average to good policies, not a few amazing dream world ones then a load of loony ones on top?

I'm trying my best not to sound like a troll, I really want an opinion from an LD supporter on those policies.
 
Superewza said:
Neither are perfect. But at least under labour we don't have any reason to go out on the streets protesting or physically stopping the government from carrying out their wishes.
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You mean like people protesting on the streets against an illegal war, or people blocking refineries in protest at petrol prices? Oh, wait!
 
Superewza said:
Neither are perfect. But at least under labour we don't have any reason to go out on the streets protesting or physically stopping the government from carrying out their wishes.
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Duuuuh.... I believe the Iraq war spawned a but of a curfuffle...

Edit: damn you pianobasher! *shakes fist*
 
Chris1712 said:
Can you please post your views on their policies, particularly those I highlighted in my previous post.....

I'm not saying Lab/Con have all brilliant fantastic orgasmic policies, but all of the above are absolute deal breakers for me. I cannot see how anyone can look past them. At least Lab/Con have a bunch of average to good policies, not a few amazing dream world ones then a load of loony ones on top?

I'm trying my best not to sound like a troll, I really want an opinion from an LD supporter on those policies.
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Yes but apparently those of us not voting because ITVs latest talent show winner didn't sucker us in are scare mongers...
 
Will Lucky said:
That's Thatcherite thinking, Cameron is more One Nation.
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If Cameron was so "One Nation", you would think that he would actively support PR where Governments aren't formed on basis of the support of a minority.

Cameron is a puppet of the Thatcherite anti-society tendency whose only real interest is helping the rich get richer :mad:

Vote Lib-Dem - choose Change!
 
“I'm voting for the Icelandic Volcano Party on May 6th.
They've done more to control immigration in 5 days than Labour have in 13 years!”
 
stockhausen said:
If Cameron was so "One Nation", you would think that he would actively support PR where Governments aren't formed on basis of the support of a minority.

Cameron is a puppet of the Thatcherite anti-society tendency whose only real interest is helping the rich get richer :mad:

Vote Lib-Dem - choose Change!
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One Nation Conservatism was in use in between 1945-1975, they were not for PR then and they won't be today.

Camerons Policies may have some Thatcherite ideas but so does Labour, because they work and their popular.
 
stockhausen said:
If Cameron was so "One Nation", you would think that he would actively support PR where Governments aren't formed on basis of the support of a minority.

Cameron is a puppet of the Thatcherite anti-society tendency whose only real interest is helping the rich get richer :mad:

Vote Lib-Dem - choose Change!
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I guess we'll see how much the lib dems believe in popular government when we see who they form a government with in the event of a hung parliament...
 
stockhausen said:
Well you'll certainly be a happy anarchist if they decide not to pursue the popularity path, wont you :p
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The only thing I don't agree with popularity being used as justification for is laws, not government.

I also noticed you didn't actually answer the question on who the Lib dems should align and negotiate with in the event of a hung parliament.
 
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