http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/20042010/36/speed-surveillance-cameras-trial-0.html
What next, mandatory black boxes in cars to monitor the speed?
What next, mandatory black boxes in cars to monitor the speed?
Where does the spying end?
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Well, yeah. I remember saying years ago that it would come into play eventually. All in the interest of 'safety'.
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That is just the tip of the ice berg wait until its a crime to pass wind in the street having detectors that detect it then id the culprit and say its a crime to the environment and be fined for it.Say three strikes and your forced to wear a plunger mandatory.
Where does the intrusion end?
Surely we are monitored enough (far too much already) in our daily lives. We are one of (if not the) most monitored nations on EARTH. What has it done for crime levels? Nothing.
I for one don't see it as an intrusion though?
If the cameras were in my house monitoring my pleasure time or invading my privacy then yes intrusion would be the right word.
However this system is to catch people breaking the law? and regardless of the methods used if it catches law breakers it can only be a good thing?
If the cameras were in my house monitoring my pleasure time or invading my privacy then yes intrusion would be the right word.
However this system is to catch people breaking the law? and regardless of the methods used if it catches law breakers it can only be a good thing?
It never ends. It will just carry on. Unless people wake up and realise it does not benefit them. can't believe most people agree with terrorism laws. Sad state of affairs that people are so scared and pliable they happily give up rights.
Not at all.
So cameras in your home would be fine if they said it was detect all crimes in your Homes.
It is not good or necessary to remove freedoms for the sake of catching criminals.
These things track you, time dates, places. This is a massive infringement. Just like cctv. But at least with CCTV it hasn't got your details stamped all over it. unlike in a car with a numberplate.
Not at all.
So cameras in your home would be fine if they said it was detect all crimes in your Homes.
It is not good or necessary to remove freedoms for the sake of catching criminals.
These things track you, time dates, places. This is a massive infringement. Just like cctv. But at least with CCTV it hasn't got your details stamped all over it. unlike in a car with a numberplate.
Would much much rather the black box in the car to more cameras everywhere, the number of raod signs and cameras dotted around are already a blight on the landscape. It's only a matter of time before cars come equipped with black boxes from the factory so lets just get on with it.
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This is the bottom line really, because it's not about crime, it's about making money.
People should hate the other people who are committing crimes in vehicles (i.e. speeding, dangerous driving) and not the police/government who are just trying to protect the innocent. Perhaps the methods aren't perfect or to everyone's liking, but if there was an easy answer surely that's the route they would take? If there weren't any people breaking the law, it wouldn't be a problem.
But speeding is not a freedom its breaking the law?
I think its going to be impossible for me to put my point across in the correct manor. As im struggling to understand what i mean myself
But I will try my best.
I am against active monitoring of peoples personal lives altogether so cameras in the homes would be a no go on many levels.
However this camera principle is really no different then stationary speed cameras and police speed check vehicles. This is not a matter of intrusion, just road safety surely?
If you don't like driving to the rules of the road, then don't drive at all? If your a petrol head and speed freak save it for the track days where its safe to do so.
They aren't targeting the large crash attributes.
2nd you are another one willing to throw your rights down the toilet, just to feel safer. You aren't safer at all.
Not to be tracked, spied on and everything else computer linked cameras can do.
being caught speeding is not the problem. The way it is done and what else they gain from it is.
Black boxes in cars are too unrealistic. There comes a point where even all the most Orwellian politicians will grimace at the thought of installing such draconian measures and biting themselves on the arse over it. No-one will try to push such legislation through the commons and say 'well I won't mind it myself' with a straight face - let alone face the backlash from it.
Driving over the speed limit is not a right though?
edit: edited after i posted ... fail
Where did I say it was.
being spied on, tracked and all the other information they groom from the system.
No, it's not - but people shouldn't have to curtail liberties and freedoms for the sake of catching people who go a couple of miles per hour over the speed limit. Honestly, this is getting ridiculous now. All the people saying 'well I don't do anything wrong so it doesn't affect me' are giving oxygen to the hare-brained legislation and ruining it for the rest of us.
And this is where I agree with you.
The camera system is not wrong its how its implimented and controlled that is the crux of the matter.