Bad point to have in the argument you are trying to make.
Achievements are nothing more than clever ways to get people to grind.
PC gaming expense ?
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Bad point to have in the argument you are trying to make.
Achievements are nothing more than clever ways to get people to grind.
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Bad point to have in the argument you are trying to make.
Achievements are nothing more than clever ways to get people to grind.
My point was not the achievements necessarily, but the inconsistency across the platform. It's a players choice to ignore or use the features but it needs consistent. Same goes for the anti-piracy enforcement.. There needs to be a consistent standard for PC games and the front end it uses. Microsoft have failed miserably at this.. but is part of the success of the Xbox.
PC gaming is expensive, because it's different from console gaming.
I recently (~2 months ago) just bought a PS3 and got an XB360 for my birthday. So far I've played 2 games on the PS3 (Fifa 10, Heavy Rain) and only switched on the 360 once (to play PGR4).
For me the real problem is getting motivated to game on the console, it's enjoyable, but a bit of a faff having to go downstairs and play on the TV compared to just being sat at my PC and launching a game. Kinda ironic actually, as many people cite it the other way round (consoles being easier to get into). OK so I could probably plug a console into my monitor but my TV is 46" 1080p compared to 22" 1680x1050 monitor.
I'd say to date this year my console gaming has cost over £10/hr, lol.
I recently (~2 months ago) just bought a PS3 and got an XB360 for my birthday. So far I've played 2 games on the PS3 (Fifa 10, Heavy Rain) and only switched on the 360 once (to play PGR4).
For me the real problem is getting motivated to game on the console, it's enjoyable, but a bit of a faff having to go downstairs and play on the TV compared to just being sat at my PC and launching a game. Kinda ironic actually, as many people cite it the other way round (consoles being easier to get into). OK so I could probably plug a console into my monitor but my TV is 46" 1080p compared to 22" 1680x1050 monitor.
I'd say to date this year my console gaming has cost over £10/hr, lol.
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Rubbish. I run it maxed out and I doubt my hardware is worth anything like 1500 quid.
All of them.
Last five PC purchases from memory: Modern Warfare 2, Mass Effect 2, Bad Company 2, Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2. They all worked perfectly first time and continued to work perfectly thereafter. Hell, BC2 and Metro launched perfectly first time on both Vista and W7, DX9/10/11 versions of said games, it all just worked.
I could go back further: Resident Evil 5, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena, Zeno Clash. Zero issues through multiple playthroughs. In fact, NO game has ever outright refused to work for me.
Your experiences are no-one's but yours.
Yeh right, unless your subtly referring to the ability to pirate games. £1500 is excessive though, I run BC2 maxed fully on a system that cost just over £1k brand new recently.
wtf a gaming rig doesn't need to cost anywhere near 1.5k ...
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Absolutely. My rig cost half that and maxes it out with ease on DX10 with 2xAA, while also managing to fetch a nice 55-65fps.
Console: less initial outlay, very expensive games
PC: More initial outlay, less expensive games, can do LOTS of other things.
Pick your poison.
sub £1000 pc will run BC in DX9 on med to hi-res easy my pc is an 2 year old Q6600 overclocked to 3.2 with a 4870 X2 and DDR2 mem [ Thinking of upgrading soon ] and I play with all max settings and it runs fine and I bet the new Ati cards should be running as good as my X2 in BC2
Also on the PC games last much much longer then on console people move on to the better game ! sooner on consoles then on pc were we have the mod community umping out great games and mods keep even 10 - 5 year old games with a strong muilt player base
Also or games are normaly cheaper and over a year of games that can add up to the cost of a pc depending on how many games u would buy
Plus PC games normaly look better unless there crappy ports
Also on the PC games last much much longer then on console people move on to the better game ! sooner on consoles then on pc were we have the mod community umping out great games and mods keep even 10 - 5 year old games with a strong muilt player base
Also or games are normaly cheaper and over a year of games that can add up to the cost of a pc depending on how many games u would buy
Plus PC games normaly look better unless there crappy ports
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PC gamers dont have to pay £40 a year to Microsoft to play online.
Keyboard and Mouse control in FPS games is worth the extra cost of PC gaming, if there actually is one.
Keyboard and Mouse control in FPS games is worth the extra cost of PC gaming, if there actually is one.
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last year i spent £200 upgrading my current computer, all i kept was the case and the hard drive, oh and the screen, if that even counts, and it runs bc2 like a dream.
couple of second hand parts, too, but they'll outlast the need for it.
couple of second hand parts, too, but they'll outlast the need for it.
Yes l agree you don't need a £1500 to play BC2, the only reason l built my present PC(SEE SIG) is due to my retirement money. As most of my build's were agood mainstream PC, but saying that my present PC got to last me a few year's just maybe updating the GPU.
Both my son's play MW2, PC(Q6600, 4GB ram, 4890, 22" monitor) / PS3 + 32" LCD TV and the difference between them is like night and day to me.
PC win's hand's down, as well as all the other thing's you can do with a PC.
PS3 play game's + movie's, but it's a simple thing to set up for most people for their kid's, nothing much can go wrong. But it's the price of the game's, you would think thay would have come down due to the number of console's sold whether a PS3 or Xbox.
Both my son's play MW2, PC(Q6600, 4GB ram, 4890, 22" monitor) / PS3 + 32" LCD TV and the difference between them is like night and day to me.
PC win's hand's down, as well as all the other thing's you can do with a PC.
PS3 play game's + movie's, but it's a simple thing to set up for most people for their kid's, nothing much can go wrong. But it's the price of the game's, you would think thay would have come down due to the number of console's sold whether a PS3 or Xbox.
My build cost me about £500 2 years ago and BC2 runs smoothly with my 3yr old 3870 that was from my previous build, all set at high at 1280x1024. Basically my system still runs any game I throw at it set at med to high, at 1280x1024.. My system can even run gta4 at max detail nice and smoothly what Im amazed at.
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When you consider that you only buy a PS3/XBox for the sake of games, thats a pure £200+ investment into games only.
How much more does a gaming PC cost over a standard one? The answer usually lies in the graphics card (even a standard PC you'd buy in PC world or wherever has a decent processor, generally) which should never cost more than £150. The investment is similar in both cases - it just boils down to what you prefer, and I'm tired of people saying that it costs £1000+ to play games on a PC.
How much more does a gaming PC cost over a standard one? The answer usually lies in the graphics card (even a standard PC you'd buy in PC world or wherever has a decent processor, generally) which should never cost more than £150. The investment is similar in both cases - it just boils down to what you prefer, and I'm tired of people saying that it costs £1000+ to play games on a PC.