FERRARI 599XX POSTS 6MIN 58.16SEC 'RING TIME

Probably not a good day to be working in the Ferrari PR department. The few forums I've seen this posted on, it's been met with a less than positive response. On top of that, the Ferrari press pic has an impressively large penis chasing the 599xx.

I'm not sure why they've done this. "Production derived sports car" could include some serious race metal if any other manufacturer bothered. You can't drive it to the 'Ring, it is built to go around a track quickly and nothing else and does it's business on slicks. And something else has already done, and faster. Personally, I'd have been a bit disappointed if a track only, £1 million ultra exclusive, test-bed Ferrari with active aero, F1 box, sticky rubber and mind-bogginly complex and customisable electronics and software went any slower. A car that has a dedicated pit button on the steering wheel *should* be posting absolutely stellar times.

Ferrari use their private Fiorano for their times, you can't compare other manufacturer times there like the Nordschleife...until now, but they choose the 599xx? Why not the 599 GTO or the 458, cars that are road legal and to some degree more obtainable?

Not many road cars sound as awesome as a Ferrari being given the beans in any configuration but for what that 599xx is and represents, that soundtrack on that video is a massive let down for me.
 
Radical still wins it for me. British engineering + road tyres + 10 seconds faster > *.
 
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Nice, but what amazed me most was that at any given point I new exactly where he was on the track, exactly what was coming up etc ....I have never been there yet I have 'driven' it on the Gran Turismo games and Forza Motorsport 3 hundreds of times in total now ...how sad is that :p ...I'm actually one of these people that just picks different cars and laps the Nürburgring time after time, purely for the fun of it on free race mode or something, nothing in it for me other than driving the 'ring and seeing what times i can set :D

I'm not sure there is a road legal car I could set a faster time in on a computer, where the physics aren't real ...there is no fear and I can start again if I crash :p
 
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Moeks said:
Nice, but what amazed me most was that at any given point I new exactly where he was on the track, exactly what was coming up etc ....I have never been there yet I have 'driven' it on the Gran Turismo games and Forza Motorsport 3 hundreds of times in total now ...how sad is that :p ...I'm actually one of these people that just picks different cars and laps the Nürburgring time after time, purely for the fun of it on free race mode or something, nothing in it for me other than driving the 'ring and seeing what times i can set :D

I'm not sure there is a road legal car I could set a faster time in on a computer, where the physics aren't real ...there is no fear and I can start again if I crash :p
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Same, no other circuit will do. Its just not right. You, could take all the other tracks off forza and I wouldn't be bothered.
 
Fett said:
Probably not a good day to be working in the Ferrari PR department.
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I disagree, those who really really love The Tifosi, as in those who drop serious wedge into the brand will love to see things like 'Production derived sports car' & 'first ever sub-seven minute time'.

For me, it is all PR spin but I am impressed with any motor that can bang out a sub 7 mins - rapid.

Moeks said:
I have never been there yet I have 'driven' it on the Gran Turismo games and Forza Motorsport 3 hundreds of times in total now
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I to have nailed more laps that I can remember in GT & Forza - but compared to when I was actually out there - it felt at times like I hadn't driven it before! The undulations in the circuit, the change of weather, the difference in pace of other cars & the realism that accidents do happen regularly - the computer games never capture any of those aspects.

The Nurburgring really is a special place, well worth a visit.
 
Both the Ferrari and the Radical appear to be track cars.

They are not the same (obviously as the Radical is quite a bit quicker), but they are both definitely track cars, I can't really see what else the Ferrari could be classified as, because:

a) it's not road legal
b) I believe that active aerodynamics rule it out from any sort of racing.

Might be wrong mind you. But it seems that both companies have designed a car specifically to go around the ring quickly, and a shed-based company from Peterborough have beaten Ferrari.

:)

Edit: this quote from the ferrari website:

http://www.ferrari.com/English/Scuderia/Corse_Clienti/599XX_Programme/Pages/599XX_Home_SP.aspx

"599XX

While based on the 599 GTB Fiorano ,with the same transaxle layout and engine type, this prototype is an extreme track car"
 
If Ferrari started from the standpoint of beating Radical do you really think the 599 would be their starting point. I didn't actually post it to show off how quick the 599 is, I saw a sub 7 minute lap of the Ring and thought impressive, for it is. All this "it's not road legal" and "not as quick as radical" is daft. To Ferrari Radical is a total irrelevance, I know Ferrari owners who would own both, he'll even the bloke who owns this site, but they are very different things. I don't see any Ring time as a motivation to spend but I do see any lap time under 7 mins as interesting.

If Ferrari really wanted to be quicker than Radical do you REALLY believe they wouldn't achieve this? I don't give a stuff around the hype, I see a big heavy car that is a handful doing a sub 7 and I'm impressed, slicks or no.
 
Coco said:
I to have nailed more laps that I can remember in GT & Forza - but compared to when I was actually out there - it felt at times like I hadn't driven it before! The undulations in the circuit, the change of weather, the difference in pace of other cars & the realism that accidents do happen regularly - the computer games never capture any of those aspects.

The Nurburgring really is a special place, well worth a visit.
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Oh I realise that, it's just watching that video it struck me just how good an approximation the computer game really is, watching that video was a bit like watching a replay of FM3 or something :p ...I would absolutely love to drive it for real, I wouldn't even try to do it like I do on a computer though :p ...I have fear of death in reality and I'd prefer the car remain the same shape throughout.
 
Moeks said:
Oh I realise that, it's just watching that video it struck me just how good an approximation the computer game really is, watching that video was a bit like watching a replay of FM3 or something :p ...I would absolutely love to drive it for real, I wouldn't even try to do it like I do on a computer though :p ...I have fear of death in reality and I'd prefer the car remain the same shape throughout.
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Your right, it is very impressive how a computer game has the corners & background nailed very accurate. No doubt about it by playing GT & Forza it translates to a safer experience when actually piloting around the Ring.
 
For a car with such extreme Aerodynamics and 730Hp, it isn't that impressive at all, Toto Wolff who himself will admit he isn't a Professional racing driver, managed 7:03 in a 450hp Porsche 997 RSR.
 
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