Matador fights for his life after being gored by a bull

Leading on from what Gilly said, I can't understand how you can say that the cruelty issue is not so bad regarding bullfighting because the bull is well looked after until it is brutally killed?

Cows that are bred for meat are killed instantly by the various methods, not forced to bleed out while trying to defend themselves.

I'm sure were it up to the bull/cow, they would rather eat slightly worse food and be a bit cramped or whatever (yes, I'm sure there are some exceptions, but there are none to the end result of a bullfight), than not have to suffer the ordeal of being slowly killed for entertainment of cowardly spaniards?
 
I witnessed a 'fight' around 10 years ago in Madrid. I'd just turned 21 and was with a group of mates, so we were all up to see what it was all about. I left after the first bull was killed, talk about a culture shock!

The bull was 'softened up' by someone on a blindfolded horse stabbing it with a long spear :mad: Then the courageous bullfighter entered to great applause and just tomented the poor animal until it couldn't go on.

It's easy to say 'different culture an outsider wouldn't understand' but i think seasoned bullfight specators are somewhat desensitived to the cruelty and focus more on the 'skill' of the matador. I found it distaseful and cruel but animals are abused globally every day so what can you do :mad:
 
tbh i think it should have been the matador that was killed and dragged through the streets on horseback, the bull did nothing wrong it was being tormented for sport and waiting on its eventual death.

I have no sympathy for the matador or to anyone how gets gored by bulls, unless it was through no fault of the person.
 
Robboftw said:
I'm sure were it up to the bull/cow, they would rather eat slightly worse food and be a bit cramped or whatever (yes, I'm sure there are some exceptions, but there are none to the end result of a bullfight), than not have to suffer the ordeal of being slowly killed for entertainment of cowardly spaniards?
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Respectfully, I disagree, although i'll continue the anthropomorphism. I believe that the instead of being slaughtered at what is the standard - age two for what in this day and age is an unnecessary human pleasure (meat), the cow would rather live to a minimum of four years (Under Spanish law they must be at least four years old and reach the weight of 460kg to fight in a first rank bullring) living on a 'luxury' ranch, which is of course again, ultimately for our pleasure.

Also, this does not mean they die at four, the majority go on live longer of course. As a side note (and sorry refer to wikipedia)- interestingly the [bulls] can actually be 'indultado', or 'pardoned', which essentially means it gets to go back to the farm for the rest of its life as a stud (passing on its outstanding characteristics) and apparently live for up to 25-30 years, almost like gladiators of Rome - survival of the fittest of sorts.

Not to romanticize what is cruel bloodsport of course, i still have a problem with it, but my problem is the twin of the other problem i have which is buying meat in supermarkets and toleration of halal. I'm not against bullfighting as a whole, i'm against the weakening of the animals before the spectacle and modern practices such as intoxicating the animal (both of which probably arise out of health and safety for the matadors), which is of course - bs.
 
In response to the general direction of this entire thread, while I don't see bull-fighting as a civilised sport (far from it) neither would I see empathy as conditional on that person behaving the way I or we see 'fit'.

I hope the man in question recovers.
 
digipeep said:
Why?

So he can kill more animals in a medieval sort of way.

Please step forward yourself if he gets the heebie jeebies.
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Who knows what his future will hold... he could even reject his past and become an animal rights activist :p Unlikely, true. But none of us should be so quick to wish ill (even death) on anyone.

Hopefully he won't want to continue bull fighting, but even if he does, there is a chance that at some point in his life he might regret what he's done.

If he never does, well too bad. He still has a right to live.
 
digipeep said:
Why?

So he can kill more animals in a medieval sort of way.

Please step forward yourself if he gets the heebie jeebies.
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As opposed to the 'enlightened sort of way' in modern slaughterhouses and such? Should we wish death on their employees too? What if you kill some small animal on the road, or even step on a fly? 'Should' I kill you then?

The clear lines you're drawing here are highly problematic.
 
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