Lets just have a quick laugh at the BNP
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Yes, 'srsly'. Mr. groen in his short history on this board have gone off like a psychotic street corner preacher accusing the police force as rapists, nullified the Fire Rescue Services and many more things you can dig out should you read his post history. He rabbited on just about everything that is supposedly wrong with the UK. The irony about him is too strong to comment on so most tollerate him as a noisy stray poodle. In line with the forum rules, I'm not attacking his person, just his usually idiotic and ill thought out 'position and opinions'.
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I was actually quite impressed by Nick Griffin of the Today programme this morning. He managed about 90 seconds before he exposed his policies as bigoted & predudice. His reasoning is just laughable.
You can stay off course. A short sharp shock treatment would soon force that Muslim-nism out of you. For the BNP it's very simple, white, you stay, non white you're gone.
Now, if they would only willing offer to send all our British bred miscreants and dole tossing families out of here along with the darkies, I might be willing to look at them more favourably.
Just curious here, wondering why people who don't support BNP accuse people that do support BNP of being racist?
IIRC the aim is to keep Britain British, I don't see anywhere a mention of keeping Britain White. There is no mention of this, people from how I see it are fast to attack that the BNP is racist but they put the words into the peoples mouth that they said it needs to be White - they do not mention this?
Do they not state that anyone with a British passport is considered british and anyone without one is not British? Where does the colour factor come into it?
I think they mentioned something about reviewing British passports given since 1998 or something like that, so see if they have 'earned' that passport - whats wrong with this?
Surely this method is a good way of getting rid of those who dont put into the system?
I'm just curious on the topic and would like to see peoples responses without discussing 'because your indian etc' There are Indians with british passports right? So what argument is there against the bnp if they do not mention colour?
I'm not for them by the way, just looking at the arguments that often discussed over this but don't really see any facts when bnp are accused of being racist pulled up, apart from assumption.
IIRC the aim is to keep Britain British, I don't see anywhere a mention of keeping Britain White. There is no mention of this, people from how I see it are fast to attack that the BNP is racist but they put the words into the peoples mouth that they said it needs to be White - they do not mention this?
Do they not state that anyone with a British passport is considered british and anyone without one is not British? Where does the colour factor come into it?
I think they mentioned something about reviewing British passports given since 1998 or something like that, so see if they have 'earned' that passport - whats wrong with this?
Surely this method is a good way of getting rid of those who dont put into the system?
I'm just curious on the topic and would like to see peoples responses without discussing 'because your indian etc' There are Indians with british passports right? So what argument is there against the bnp if they do not mention colour?
I'm not for them by the way, just looking at the arguments that often discussed over this but don't really see any facts when bnp are accused of being racist pulled up, apart from assumption.
Keeping Britain British is a racist sentiment.
But in any case, the BNP constitution specifiied "white" until they were forced to change it. They have barred non-whites from their meetings. Griffen talks about the Anglo-Saxon natives, and has held seminars for American White Supremacists in which he talks about making their white supremacist views acceptable by talking in veiled language.
There's no question that the BNP is, and always has been, primarily a racist party.
Your question has been answered many times before:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16397706&postcount=17
You keep limiting your potential by believing that.
What about if there is an Indian man who has a British passport therefore classified as a British citizen, surley keeping Britain British would include him in it too?
I think there was mention of members (non-whites) who are joined to the bnp party, but are British.
True. Dolph has made some good posts and this has been discussed on these boards as long as I've been posting here (4 years) and reading these boards (7 years). In that time nobody was able to offer a satisfactory explanation on what 'Britishness' means. There is no definition. The BNP means 'British born' and then what they would never say out loud, White British Born. Griffin stated on many occasions that British born ethnic people are not British. Explain that logic to me?
the vast majority of people who don't put into the system are british by birth and are dole bludging, idle, peasants who delight in their working class credentials whilst avoiding work at all costs
By seriously, i meant that is he what the BNP want out, yet he continues to protect the BNP?
Thanks for that. Some reason it looks like the .pdf has been pulled down though and it was from 2005?
Can't understand that. If they've got a british passport, therefore = british citizen they are considered to be british.
That is true and I agree, however they are born here so can't be sent no-where else. People coming in from other countries hear about the 'system'. Fair enough if they work for their money etc (I dont see how they could have a problem tbh), but if they come here to get on the dole etc then they are giving nothing to the country - just taking.
I think people should have to have GCSE's before they can vote, or some other academic qualification that proves they are capable of reading and learning. Im sure half the people voting BNP don't even know what a manifesto is let alone being able to read and understand one.
Thanks for that. Some reason it looks like the .pdf has been pulled down though and it was from 2005?
I think they were recently forced to change their admission policies? Might be why.
The other point people often make is that if you're so against immigration, why not vote UKIP?
There isn't anything racist about the viewpoint you're talking about, and the one the BNP are desperate to say that they have. I'd say it's massively flawed, but still not racist. However that isn't really the BNP's viewpoint, Nick Griffin has said time and time again that you cannot be a Black Briton, you cannot be a Briton of Indian descent, and that's the point at which the whole argument falls down, they are only too open as a party that the real problem they have is with people of a different skin colour, followed by people of another religion
Then the BNP would not consider him British, keeping Britain British would not include him, no.
we had BNP councillor a while back and tbh it was more down to a protest vote i think (no i didnt vote for them btw)
looking at the areas some of you folks come from,i dont think you see whats happening ,we have no go zones in Ravensthorpe afew miles away.some asian kids asked us recently "what us english were doing round here" (they were about 10 years old ,we go through on our walk to bluebell woods)
the Cricketers pub in Heckmonwike is now a womens islamic institute ,ok fine (maybe its down to tax more than anything else) but its as you would expect next to the cricket field ,takes some getting used to, the grave yard is vandalised with black power slogans and the stones kicked over
im not saying we have riots all the time but its the way gettos are created and not integration that worrys me
looking at the areas some of you folks come from,i dont think you see whats happening ,we have no go zones in Ravensthorpe afew miles away.some asian kids asked us recently "what us english were doing round here" (they were about 10 years old ,we go through on our walk to bluebell woods)
the Cricketers pub in Heckmonwike is now a womens islamic institute ,ok fine (maybe its down to tax more than anything else) but its as you would expect next to the cricket field ,takes some getting used to, the grave yard is vandalised with black power slogans and the stones kicked over
im not saying we have riots all the time but its the way gettos are created and not integration that worrys me
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