Poll: The Last Leaders Debate – Live tonight at 2030 BST on BBC One

Who will you vote for?

  • Labour

    Votes: 67 11.8%

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 231 40.7%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 227 40.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 42 7.4%
  • Total voters
    567
  • Poll closed .
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bigredshark said:
There is absolutely no way of knowing that, it would only be a disaster if the leaders refused act like grown ups, it could in a best case force them to adopt moderate middle of the road policies (which are almost certainly the best option right now, all three parties are playing too much to their ideology for the real world).
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The credit rating agencies would probably slash the countries ratings within weeks, how is that not a disaster?
 
Hatter The Mad said:
Nick Clegg writing in The Independent in 2009 advocating joining the Euro: http://bit.ly/aiKfLF

Lib Dem manifesto: 'We believe that it is in Britain’s long-term interest to be part of the euro.’

Nick Clegg in the debate: "We are not advocating joining the Euro"
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He did say they'd consider it though, when the country was in a stronger position to do it, i.e. it's long term interest.
 
Rich_L said:
More aptly, it's amazing what they didn't do for the Tories - Cameron was one of the ones in favour of them back in December last year remember and most people thought that he would benefit from them.

As it happens, the debates may well have played a large part in the Tories failing to win an election which they had been odds-on to do for about 3 years. Doh.
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No - this is wrong. The Tories had lost their mega lead before the debates even started.
 
cymatty said:
The credit rating agencies would probably slash the countries ratings within weeks, how is that not a disaster?
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No proof of that and I disagree, the prospect is now so likely and has been very possible for long enough that the risk is priced into the markets already. If they have any regard for the country they'd also release a joint statement setting out basic economic policy for the next six months or so. Even so, if it was true I don't believe it would be logical to have the next 5 years of government held hostage by the short term threats of the bond market.
 
God I really feel for this nation when Cameron gets in, they'll do it but not for the right reasons, people want change but the average joe doesnt understand that the conservative are not for everyone.

I will say Labour has tried to please everyone and not done a good job of it, Brown isn't a face for TV or spectacle but he's sound on his policies, though Labour could do with actually selling these policies better because the average joe isn't aware whats in place, only to hear them as 'shiny new policies' by the others who are fighting for your vote.

Anyway, finally why is it the only support banners I see for Conservatives are on the big/rich houses in our town and not anywhere else.....;)

But Labour have nailed their own coffin, Conservatives are sure to get in and what will he do first? Thank his biggest supporters! ;)
 
Hatter The Mad said:
No - this is wrong. The Tories had lost their mega lead before the debates even started.
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No it's not. They contrived to lost their mega-lead through their general ineptness regarding the financial crisis, but they were still odds-on to get a small majority until the first debate where the subsequent increase in LibDem support has made a hung Parliament the most likely outcome.

i.e. Betfair

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bigredshark said:
Even so, if it was true I don't believe it would be logical to have the next 5 years of government held hostage by the short term threats of the bond market.
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Standard and Poors appears to be the main risk to a downgrade for the UK. They have held the UK’s rating on negative watch since last May, and say that in the “absence of a stronger fiscal consolidation plan the...debt burden may approach a level incompatible with a ‘AAA’ rating.”
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Will be hard to have a consolidated fiscal plan with a hung parliament, I agree with your point about being held ransom by the bond market. However at the moment we rely on it heavily and pay a large amount of debt interest, cutting our rating would make the cuts needed even more severe to cover the increase in interest payments.
 
God I hate the post debate debarcle, apparently they all looked like winners non of them aswered any questions but at the same time they all answered all the questions and the other 2 didn't. Oh and yet again labour don't listen or believe polls but they do believe the public who ironically created the polls.
 
I'm surprised Lib Dems are still getting votes considering the outlandish manifesto - I mean, some parts are just face palm embarrassing - come on - aggressive per mile road charging for all? WTF, soviet russia much? Who would want that?
 
cymatty said:
Will be hard to have a consolidated fiscal plan with a hung parliament, I agree with your point about being held ransom by the bond market. However at the moment we rely on it heavily and pay a large amount of debt interest, cutting our rating would make the cuts needed even more severe to cover the increase in interest payments.
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Probably fair, I think the risk is priced in myself but given nobody (agency aside) knows for certain there's not much point arguing. I think a combination of that undesirability of being held to ransom by ratings agencies (maybe our rating deserves a downgrade, consequences aside, it'd force a serious appraisal of the situation) and the fact that I'm uncomfortable with a majority government which would have to make massive cuts despite almost twice as many people voting against them as for them make a hung parliament, if not desirable then the least worst option.
 
v0n said:
I'm surprised Lib Dems are still getting votes considering the outlandish manifesto - I mean, some parts are just face palm embarrassing - come on - aggressive per mile road charging for all? WTF, soviet russia much? Who would want that?
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18-28yr olds from what I can gather.
 
Brown does seem to think the super rich involves anyone earning above £20k/year. That woman who is married to a chartered accountant made a very good point, usual middle class families on decent enough incomes are still struggling.

Labour have failed after 13 years. Unemployment and economic growth funded purely by reckless borrowing and debt. An inflated state sector, profligacy and bureaucracy. These debates have confirmed who I will be voting for and although people may be attracted to Labour's ideology, how can you possibly give them yet another chance when they have failed so badly.

No doubt the Tories will win, they will make cuts (like ANY government) they will do a damn good job in the long run to fix the economy but they will go down in history as another Thatcher government. Labour will pick up and make a mess again by borrowing and inflating the state sector. History repeats itself.
 
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